Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer Character styles: "Default Paragraph Font" vs "No Character Style" vs "- None -"

On 2022-10-02 02:50, LO.Harald.Berger@t-online.de wrote:
> Am 02.10.2022 um 07:06 schrieb John Kaufmann:

> > Discussing Character styles, the Help says of the particular style "No Character Style" that:
> >
> > > "No Character Style is actually the set of character properties of the current paragraph style. Choose 
> > > No Character Style to reset the character properties of the selection to those of the paragraph style."
> >
> > That sounds fine -- a needed function (though it is new in LO 7, isn't it?). 
>
> Yes and No, this Character Style is called "Default" in older LibreOffice versions.

Do you know exactly when it changed? I'm searching for release notes.

 
> > But then how does that differ from the particular style "Default Paragraph Style" (about which the Help is 
> > silent)? Is not the Default Paragraph Style already set by the current Paragraph style? What does it mean to designate 
> > a Character style as "Default Paragraph Style"?
>
> The "Default Paragraph Style" is sort of the mother of all paragraph styles, IMHO it should not be used, but 
> "Text Body" instead.

I'm sorry, but isn't "Text Body" a Paragraph style, not a Character style?  My question is about the different purposes of the /Character/ 
styles "Default Paragraph Style" [about which, as I asked, What does it mean to designate a /Character/ style as "Default Paragraph 
Style"?], "No Character Style" and "- None -".


> > Finally: though "- None -" is not among the pre-defined Character styles, it is among the parent choices when defining a new Character 
> > style.  How does the behavior of a Character style change when "Inherit from" is set to "Default Paragraph Font" vs "No 
> > Character Style" vs "- None -"? [I have not detected a difference.]
>
> Unfortunately, I did not understand your last paragraph (sorry). Why vs?

Sorry. The contraction "vs" [versus] is simply a shorthand way of contrasting members of a class. 
In other words, what is the difference between Inheriting a Character style:
        - from "Default Paragraph Font" or
        - from "No Character Style" or
        - from "- None -" ?


> Here is some more, I hope, helpful information:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/Professional_work_in_Writer

Thanks. I look forward to seeing that. Unfortunately, for the past hour the status of that URL is:
> "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties."
>
> "Try waiting a few minutes and reloading."
>
> "(Cannot access the database: Unknown error (localhost))"

I will keep trying that, because it sounds promising.  As you say, there is a change here (which 
makes sense; Character styles have always suffered somewhat from unclear motivation). I'm sure that 
there are release notes on this topic somewhere, but don't know where to find them. However, I will 
continue looking, and am currently looking in:
        <https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=%22Character%20style%22>.

I appreciate your response.
Kind regards,
John

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