Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.3 glitches

That's an interesting point of view Tom. 

In my opinion any unannounced regression is a proper subject for a bug report and a new capability 
is the subject for a feature request. But, I'm not a developer. 

It would be nice if ordinary dictionary definitions applied to the words used!

-- 
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Davies <tomcecf@gmail.com>
To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
Sent: Fri, 03 Feb 2017 7:44
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5.3 glitches

Hi :)
Right now is a good time to post bug-reports and "feature requests".

"Feature requests" are what most 'normal' (ie non-devs) of us think of as
bugs.  It includes features that used to work but now don't and features
that don't quite work at all.

"Bug reports" are only things that cause the program or entire system to
crash (or that escalate privileges to super-users/ super-user/
administrator - but as normal users we probably wouldn't notice such
escalation).  In chatting with each other we often call things "bugs" or
say a thing is "buggy" but if it doesn't crash the system or cause it to
close unexpectedly, then it doesn't fit the developers notion of "bug", so
there is no point posting a bug-report about it - instead post as a
feature-request.

Similarly with the term "stable".  However badly a thing behaves, such as
familiar functionality suddenly not working, then the devs don't think of
that as showing the program is unstable.  A program is only unstable if it
crashes (or maybe that escalation thing) or if it crashes the whole
system.  LibreOffice is particularly unlikely to do either of those things
- there is a measurement of that sort of stability and LibreOffice scores
extraordinarily highly, far above much more respected or well-known
software.

It is nice to hear about good&bad issues with new the branch of LibreOffice
as it allows us to be better prepared for the questions that 'normal' users
are likely to ask on this mailing list.  However reporting an issue to this
mailing list is extremely unlikely to result in the issue being (what we
would probably refer to as being) fixed.


Right now is probably the best time for doing proper bug-reports and
feature-requests because it's the time when the greatest percentage of devs
are focused on this branch and most interested in it's outcomes.

Regards from
Tom :)


On 3 February 2017 at 15:21, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster <
webmaster@krackedpress.com> wrote:

> I used Linux Mint on a test system.  What Desktop version are you using -
> MATE or Cinnamon?  I used MATE when I tested Linux Mint.
>
> I use Ubuntu with the MATE desktop [16.04LTS] and I also have the LO
> desktop icon,s plus the icons for Writer and Calc in the "top panel".  I
> have not tried the 5.3.x.x version, since I just upgraded to 5.2.4.2.
> After I do the needed work this month, or two, I will test 5.3.x.x on my
> testing laptop.
>
> The need to change the Icon Properties to launch LO from the desktop/panel
> icons is a concern for me.  Will I have to do similar to Ubuntu Mate when I
> go to 5.3.x.x?
>
>
>
>
> On 02/03/2017 09:38 AM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:
>
> > Try changing the Icon properties set to allow execute.
> >
> > This may help.
> >
> >
> > On 2/2/2017 7:36 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
> >
> > > Minor ones, the download and install were fine and that fixed my lack
> > > of spell-checking that I was complaining of here a while back.
> > >
> > > I'm using Linux Mint 18. The new icons for version 5.3 showed up in the
> > > start menu and they work. My boot process ends at a desktop so I like
> > > to have a LO Writer icon on the desktop so I can start there if I want.
> > > I popped up the start menu, went into "office" then with the mouse
> > > over the LO Writer icon, dragged it to the desktop, leaving me with a
> > > desktop icon as launcher. Clicking on the desktop icon gives a dialog
> > > box with a message, "untrusted application launcher" and "The
> > > application launcher 'libre-office5-3writer.desktop' has not been marked
> > > as trusted. If you do not know the source of this file, launching it
> > > may be unsafe." Below are two buttons, "Launch anyway" and "Cancel" I
> > > always launch and it works fine. Still it would be nice to make it
> > > trusted.
> > >
> > > Also the icon has a little lock emblem in the top right corner.
> > > Ordinarily I expect to see that when I'm running as a user and trying
> > > to launch a program owned by root. And finally I'd like to be able to
> > > change the icon image and label text but an attempt to rename through
> > > the icon properties dialogue box leaves me with a message box telling me
> > > the item could not be renamed and 'unable to rename desktop file.'
> > >
> > > All small stuff the upgrade is still very worthwhile.
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Dave
>
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