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Hi :)
Sorry for the appalling grammar in that excessively long post!  Hopefully
people can get the gist of what i was trying to say.


Also i think the priorities should be re-arranged.

1.  Using LibreOffice to convert files into Pdfs kinda ensures that ALL
different Pdf-readers are likely to be able to read the documents easily.

2.  Although Rtf was inconsistent in implementation, in much the same way
that DocX has been so far (at least 4 different "transitional" versions so
far), the LibreOffice filters may well be one of the best at importing all
the various different implementations.

In each case it seems the creator of the format makes bold claims of
"interoperability" which they themselves then seem unable to fulfil - but
that everyone else seems to achieve by always having to "play catch-up".

I've not got definitive proof of any of these theories but it's just a
feeling i've built-up over the years from rumour&gossip in forums and from
people around me.

Regards from
Tom :)



On 2 December 2016 at 08:59, Tom Davies <tomcecf@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi :)
Annoyingly PDF is another non-standards based file-format.

In much the same way as RTF, DocX it does keep changing at the whim of a
single profit-making company - usually this keeps their own product ahead
of all competitors products in terms of writing  and also in reading that
format.  With PDF it's Adobe's whims that keep changing the format and
constantly making it different from other implementations, including their
own.

So people are kinda forced into using Adobe's PDF reader and need to keep
updating or upgrading it - or just accept that whichever pdf-reader they
currently use may not handle all Pdfs. When people use Adobe's newer
PDF-writer the resulting Pdfs may be unreadable (or have large chunks that
are unreadable/usable) in anything other than the latest Adobe Pdf-reader
Non-Adobe PDF-writers continue to write versions of Pdf that can be read by
almost any Pdf-reader.

Use of Pdf has risen 'recently' due to an increasing lack of confidence in
documents created in MS Word.  People are finding that even old documents
may not be read perfectly in newer versions of MS Word than they were
written with, or even the 'same' version on a different machine.


The Pdf format generally removes the ability to edit or modify documents
so any documents kept only in that format will need to be completely
re-written for even fairly minor edits  to bring them up-to-date.  Some
very minor edits may be possible thanks to programs such as LibreOffice but
such programs rarely allow text to re-flow nicely in the way people usually
expect of word-processors such as Writer, Word, etc.

Regards from
Tom :)








On 30 November 2016 at 15:32, Paquin, Brian <brian.paquin@yale.edu> wrote:


On Nov 30, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Alexander Thurgood <
alex.thurgood@gmail.com> wrote:

Le 29/11/2016 à 15:14, Paquin, Brian a écrit :

Hi Brian,

These pages might help you out :

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.ooon
inja.com_2008_02_batch-2Dcommand-2Dline-2Dfile-2Dconversion-
2Dwith.html&d=CwIGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=jc-EqZyK6fWy
s6oTdMgtt9CjzHj-k5sGu3EHT7qx4Jg&m=XG14LQXWQ3XXoUF8Buso5oApR1
LViTUCSh9Op9_ywCM&s=0pN4Ab6qaZ-cZ61tDq5py-5QDraLSw02Zzq6tzIfV7k&e=

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ask.lib
reoffice.org_en_question_12084_how-2Dto-2Dconvert-2Ddocument
s-2Dto-2Dpdf-2Don-2Dosx_&d=CwIGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdq
w&r=jc-EqZyK6fWys6oTdMgtt9CjzHj-k5sGu3EHT7qx4Jg&m=XG14LQXWQ3
XXoUF8Buso5oApR1LViTUCSh9Op9_ywCM&s=891gdnMORdZXeWZhrTdK37K
Bxk8APD1D565jAPUVneo&e=

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ask.lib
reoffice.org_en_question_2641_convert-2Dto-2Dcommand-2Dline-
2Dparameter_&d=CwIGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=jc-EqZ
yK6fWys6oTdMgtt9CjzHj-k5sGu3EHT7qx4Jg&m=XG14LQXWQ3XXoUF8Buso
5oApR1LViTUCSh9Op9_ywCM&s=---zWRZOThce25xQG0TflLRmcsGqEgT7LFX-Y5T9pt8&e=

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ask.lib
reoffice.org_en_question_1686_how-2Dto-2Dnot-2Dconnect-2Dto-
2Da-2Drunning-2Dinstance_&d=CwIGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdq
w&r=jc-EqZyK6fWys6oTdMgtt9CjzHj-k5sGu3EHT7qx4Jg&m=XG14LQXWQ3
XXoUF8Buso5oApR1LViTUCSh9Op9_ywCM&s=vNk9JJQj0r5A-4TQB1p2fDq
kbcj6fAAYwsbyksKR0AY&e=

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__stackove
rflow.com_questions_22062973_libreoffice-2Dconvert-2Dto-
2Dnot-2Dworking&d=CwIGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=jc-EqZyK
6fWys6oTdMgtt9CjzHj-k5sGu3EHT7qx4Jg&m=XG14LQXWQ3XXoUF8Buso5o
ApR1LViTUCSh9Op9_ywCM&s=hOHHGSn1lpS1fXT8tD6_iRsGqPHnXBR6kDEh7QFcMRI&e=

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__stackove
rflow.com_questions_19280101_use-2Dlibreoffice-2Dto-
2Dconvert-2Dhtml-2Dto-2Dpdf-2Dfrom-2Dmac-2Dcommand-2Din-
2Dterminal&d=CwIGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=jc-EqZyK6fWys
6oTdMgtt9CjzHj-k5sGu3EHT7qx4Jg&m=XG14LQXWQ3XXoUF8Buso5oApR1L
ViTUCSh9Op9_ywCM&s=3o51oiaP6HHXEZMHZ3Vcz3N6jsmA6H4hPrz0UyAlO_c&e=


However, it doesn't seem to be immediately obvious.

Alex


Thank you Alex and Bruce.
The document describing how to use -env was particularly interesting...

Brian


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