Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer Objects?

On 25.09.2016 20:50, Ricardo wrote:
> El 2016-09-25 20:07, Dave escribió:
> > Can someone tell me what Writer defines as "Objects"? The term seems to
> > be loosely and often inaccurately used in menus and the "Help" facility.
> >
> > For example, drawing items appear to be defined a "Objects", but then so
> > do frames.
> >
> > According to the "Help" facility:
> > "Objects;Definition
> > An object is a screen element containing data. It can refer to
> > application data, such as text or graphics.
> > Objects are independent and do not influence each other. Any object
> > containing data can be assigned certain commands. For example, a graphic
> > object has commands for image editing 8<-- snip -->8 ."
> >
> > A totally inaccurate and contradictory "garbled" statement in itself.
> >
> > In the "Help" facility, the "Selecting;Objects" section also makes
> > totally false, inaccurate and meaningless claims about selecting and
> > grouping *ALL* those things claimed to be "Objects".
> >
> > AFAICT the only genuine Writer "Objects" are "Drawing Objects". Does
> > anyone know of any other genuine Writer "Objects"?
>
> Math objects are "valid" as well. You can also insert a Calc table on
> a Writer document, for example, in which case it will be an object. It
> is also possible to insert a "Writer object" into Draw.
>
> Frames can be considered as objects in part because they can display
> the content of external documents: this is how master documents work.
>
> A common feature of all objects is that when you try to manipulate
> their content the "parent" program will open: double click on an
> equation will open Math, double click on a Calc table inserted in
> Writer will open Calc and so on.
>
> Regards,
> Ricardo
>
> > Dave

Hi Ricardo,

Thanks for kindly taking the time to respond. Having been involved with
this software since Sun open sourced the Star Office code in 2001, I was
already aware of the the things you refer to. However, you have
overlooked the point I was making:

We describe all of those things as being "Objects", but then in the
"Help" facility "Selecting;Objects" section we go on to tell "half
truths" about selecting and grouping *ALL* of those things described as
being "Objects". <Q> You can combine several graphic objects into a
group so that you can use them like a single object. </Q>.

In fact the only "Objects" you can select and combine are "Drawing
Objects". Not graphic (picture) objects, Math objects, Calc tables,
Frames, or any other inserted objects.

Regards
Dave
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