Re: [libreoffice-users] Empty spaces in master documents...

       Maybe someone(s) will respond anon.



From: Wiebe van der Worp <w@vanderworp.org>
Date: Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Empty spaces in master documents...
To: anne-ology <laginnis@gmail.com>
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org


On 29-10-15 18:18, anne-ology wrote:

        So sorry no one responded;
>            but maybe no one knew what you were asking -
>           I for one am not sure what you're asking, but will make an
> attempt
> to answer,
>         what are these blanks you're seeing? - could these have been placed
> there by the author for a set purpose?,

Nope, no page breaks and empty paragraphs, the blanks are inserted by LO
and disappear after the master document is forced to recalculate the layout
of the pages. On http://media.vanderworp.org/.dot/.lo/1_lo_after_open.png:
r2c2, r4c4 show these white spaces for example.

On 19-10-15 15:11, Wiebe van der Worp wrote:
> > For some manuals I use master documents with satellites in Writer.
        [to what are you referring?]
>

One .odm master document containing several .odt satellite, linked
documents.

What I do:
> >    * Open document
> >    * Update index
> >    * Update selection for every satellite (using navigator)
> >    * Update index again
> >    * Export to PDF for printing and distribution
        is the index the document?
>

Indexes and tables, the table of contents, r1c2, the grey part. RMB >
Update.

        how many of these satellites are you using? -
>            are you possibly referring to those in space which allow for
> messages to be sent-received?

Hehe! No, just keeping feet on the ground, I'm referring to a .odm master
with linked .odt files (as satellites). You can see them in the navigator
part on the left side of the screen dump.

        what is the reason for using PDFs?
>

Printer doesn't like filesize, some raster images are simply too big, not
LO to blame, I sample images back to normal values during pdf export.

To get an idea I've temporary placed the following screen dumps on
> > http://media.vanderworp.org/.dot/.lo/ :
> >
> > 1_lo_after_open.png
> > 2_lo_after_update_index.png
> > 3_lo_after_update_selection.png
> >
> > This solution is highly complex and unfriendly (some of these masters
> > contain a lot satellites), I consider not properly calculating the
> > layout a bug.
        huh?
>

In the above example it means updating the TOC, RMB every attached .odt in
navigator en choose update selection, then update the TOC again. These
steps should not be needed imo.

The documents themselves have strict style rules and only contain
> > bitmaps and svg's.
        huh?
>

I mean, there is nothing fancy that could be blamed for not calculating the
lay out properly.

After opening it starts organizing the flow of content and at a certain
point it simply stops. No idea if it is a time out, a crashing subprocess.
The reason to think in that direction is because every time I open the same
master document, the layout, the places where blanks occur, is different.
It also looks like what is described at
http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/6144 .

I just made a master document and, as a test, inserted the Writer 4.2
manual (https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/) in it. Almost
500 pages, no problem.

However I noticed that pictures in this manual are set to no wrap. Maybe
that makes things too complex for LO in my document.

Thanks for your time.

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