Re: [libreoffice-users] Autorecovery not working

Thanks a lot for this thorough explanation.
And sorry for not having explained in detail my problem.

It was after a crash indeed.
If I remember rightly, at recovery process, most of the files were 
marked green (recoverable) except this one. LO proposed to save a copy 
in the "My Documents" directory but there seemed to be none saved there.

Thanks to your explanations, I understand that all Autorecovery versions 
are lost when we accept the Autorecovery process after a crash;  I 
should  have been digging for the lost file before reopening LibreOffice.

This "digging" seems difficult to me as Autorecovery usually works very 
well : it is difficult to anticipate when the process could fail and for 
which file it would fail.

Besides, it seems to me that this digging was possible in previous LO 
versions even after an autorecovery process.

Anyway, would'nt it be better that LO keeps the autorecovery files after 
a crash, in case ... ?

Thanks again for the explanations,

Paul Lens

Le 31/05/2015 13:36, Brian Barker a écrit :
> At 10:31 31/05/2015 +0200, Lens Paul wrote:
> > I lost recently a calc file despite the autorecovery function set on 
> > 10 minutes interval. I kept the lost file open for 2 days. The only 
> > files to be found in the backup directory and the temporary file 
> > directory were 2 days old, although the lost file had been modified 
> > several times.
>
> As you probably realise, backup and AutoRecovery are two different 
> things. If you have backup copies selected, you should see a *.bak 
> copy of the file in the backup directory - but this is simply the 
> version that was replaced the previous time you made a manual save of 
> the document. So if you did not save the document during those two 
> days, no matter how many modifications you made, the backup copy will 
> indeed be the previous version cascaded by your manual save two days ago.
>
> With AutoRecovery set to ten minutes, a current version of the 
> document should be saved separately every ten minutes - provided you 
> have made some modification since the previous similar save - under a 
> different name. I think the AutoRecovery version of name.ods will be 
> saved in the same backup directory as name.ods_0.ods (where the "0" 
> progresses to other numbers).
>
> But you don't explain how you "lost" the document. When you save the 
> document manually - including if you respond positively to the 
> challenge when closing either the document or LibreOffice itself - the 
> AutoRecovery version is deleted. If LibreOffice (or the operating 
> system, or the computer) crashes for some reason, you should be 
> offered a recovered version next time you start LibreOffice. You may 
> accept the offer (and save the recovered document somewhere) or choose 
> to decline it. But whichever choice you make at this point, the 
> AutoRecovery version will be deleted. If for some reason you don't 
> trust LibreOffice to offer you the recovery process, you would need to 
> go digging for the file *before* reopening LibreOffice. Otherwise 
> there will indeed be nothing to find.
>
> Did you perhaps close the document without saving it (an easy mistake 
> to make) but hope that the AutoRecovery facility would keep what you 
> thus asked LibreOffice to discard? It's not designed to protect you 
> from unfortunate choices despite reminders.
>
> > I use to set specific paths for backups and temporary files instead 
> > of keeping the default paths. [...] Should I keep the default paths 
> > for the backups and the temporary files?
>
> I doubt that makes any difference.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker


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