Check the post, I've uploaded the requested file.
Thanks for your interest.
Regards
*Ramón E. Tavárez B.*
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Cley Faye [via Document Foundation Mail
Archive] <ml-node+s969070n4147063h60@n3.nabble.com> wrote:
Discussion about open formats aside, I've looked at the file and it looks
like when saving as xlsx each sheet grow huge (some goes to ~20MB before
compression).
Could you also post the xlsx file obtained when saving with MSO, for
comparison? My guess is that either LO saves *a lot* of empty/dummy
cells,
or that it saves in an older xlsx format that is less compact.
btw this is only a "by curiosity" request, but it could help the dev
pinpoint an issue if my first guess is correct.
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2015-04-23 17:28 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies <[hidden email]
<http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4147063&i=0>>:
Hi :)
Yeh, i don't know a good way around that :( other than the way you
already
use! :))
People used to be quite happy with the idea of downloading Adobe
Acrobat
to
read Pdfs with. It used to be that almost any website that shared any
kind
of document tended to only have them as Pdfs and also then 'had to'
have
a
button to help people download and install an Adobe Pdf Reader. We
hardly
see any of that these days but that is quite a recent change.
There were objections from people working in the council, or other
government offices or in big companies that they couldn't install
anything
and thus couldn't use the format that everyone else seemed to be using
so
much. Now they seem to use Pdf more than everyone else, and even
demand
that other people use it!
Regards from
Tom :)
On 23 April 2015 at 16:08, Ramon Tavarez <[hidden email]
<http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4147063&i=1>> wrote:
Hi:
Thanks for your attention.
The fact with this file is that can't be supported by .XLS format,
and
my
coworkers doesn't work with LibO, and that is the only way I can use
to
"keep in touch" with them and their jobs. It may be a pain .. ... ...
,
but while it work I'll keep using this method to share my jobs with
them!
In use LibO for every document I create, even I update every
version
of
LibO as the module for my Linux distro: Porteus.
On the other hand,I can understand the situation with MSOffice and
how
they refuse the OpenDocument formats, but I still worry about the
big
file size for those files not supported by the "classical" file
type.
This can lead erroneously, as you said, to people to believe that
everyone else made bad spreadsheet programs and everyone should stick
with
MS.
Thanks.
*Ramón E. Tavárez B.*
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Tom Davies <[hidden email]
<http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4147063&i=2>> wrote:
Hi :)
The XlsX, and other OOXML formats are notoriously unreliable. Each
different version of MS Office uses slightly different versions.
There
are
at least 3 different "transitional" versions of the format and they
are
not
always compatible with each other.
If you take the XlsX that was saved by MS Office 2013 and try
opening
it
in another version of MS Office, say 2010 or 2007, or even 365 then
you
may
well find it's been opened in "Compatibility Mode" or even that it
doesn't
work at all in extreme cases. Chances are that some things will
have
moved
around or vanished, especially if you have anything in a frame (such
as
images).
It makes a bit of sense that a file created with newer software
might
not
fare too well on older versions of the same program but with XlsX
and
the
other OOXML formats it even seems to happen the other way around.
Save
a
file in MS Office 2007 and you get the same problems trying to open
that
file in more recent versions of MS Office.
MS keep the specs for their formats secret. There is an ISO
definition
of OOXML but that doesn't seem to work in any version of MS Office.
MSO
2013 was the first that allowed people to save in "strict" but the
resultant files don't seem to be able to be opened in any version of
MS
Office.
So pretty much all programs struggle with trying to read or write
XlsX
or
other OOXML files in any reliable way. Which version of MS Office
should
they aim for?
Actually we had a few times where the LibreOffice user in an office
has
been the only person able to open files from colleagues using
different
versions of MS Office and has then become a kinda stepping stone for
sharing files between those colleagues. Similarly with OpenOffice.
Best advice seems to be to use either;
1. the older MS Office format, Xls (without the X on the end), for
MS
Office Xp/2000 and prior or
2. stick with Ods.
Microsoft, in their 2010 version, refused to use the ODF 1.2 format
that
everyone else was using at the time and stuck with a mangled version
of
the
older 1.0 (even ignoring the 1.1) and somehow that led to Ods
appearing
to
open just fine but all the formulas got replaced by fixed values.
Their
apparent failure somehow led to people saying that everyone else
made
bad
spreadsheet programs and everyone should stick with MS.
So it is well worth avoiding XlsX and it is probably best to use
their
older Xls format instead - at least if you want to open the
spreadsheet
on
any machine other than the one with MS Office 2013 on.
Regards from
Tom :)
On 23 April 2015 at 15:03, RamonTavarez <[hidden email]
<http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4147063&i=3>> wrote:
Hi:
I've experienced the following issue:
The file attached is an .ODS file (1,976 KB). When seved as .XLSX
file
it
expands to more than 15 MB.
If the new .XLSX files is oppened with MSOffice 2013 it will ask
for
recovery of information within the file, after that if we save the
recovered file to the same file type (.XLSX) the file shrinks to
2,393KB.
Why?
OBRA_CIVIL_TERMINACION_ESTACION_Y_MODULO_ENTRADA_EST_21_LINEA_2B_abril_2015.ods
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