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On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, anne-ology wrote:

      what ???

      In actually printing the data -
        (in my experience) -
       from a PDF file, there's a lot of blank pages, gobbledegook,
extraneous lines criss-crossing, as well as extremely wide margins - all of
which not only wastes paper but makes for a quite messy printed page(s).

      So other than those who think they're ecrypting the data why does
anyone use a program which makes such a mess - and as for encrypting the
data; well, I've been able to open any of these PDFs without waiting for
whatever code - after receiving whatever codes, the outcome is never any
better.

I wonder what is going on here. I don't experience _any_ of this. of course, if the composer of the pdf set the margins wide (or narrow) that will show up in the pdf (as it's supposed to).

how do you open them for reading?

for my part I couldn't work at all well without pdfs, pretty much indispensable.

F.


From: Andreas S├Ąger <villeroy@t-online.de>
Date: Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 4:42 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: PDFs
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


Am 30.12.2014 um 03:16 schrieb anne-ology:
       Thank you for this information -
            I did not realize that PDFs were not merely a strange sort of
word document  ;-)
           (I have not liked PDFs;
          & have not understood the continual use of them - although some
seem to encrypt them)






_Any_ software able to send print jobs can generate PDF by sending the
print job to a software rather than a print device.
And that very same _Any_ software is the software to edit your data and
then send another print job to the PDF generator exactly like you would
print new paper sheets after editing the original data. PDF is not a
document format. It is a virtual print out designed to look exactly like
a physical print out _regardless_ of the editing software being a word
processor, graphics program, web browser, computer aided design suite,
desktop publishing software, charting/plotting/rendering whatever
software. If it can print sheets of paper, it can also "print" PDF. You
can not edit the output of arbitrary software with your word processor.
The PDF extension which dissembles arbitrary PDF chunks into Draw
elements is a master piece. Of course, it does not fulfill the high
flying expectations of the united front of ignorants.

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