Re: [libreoffice-users] outline numbering

Virgil Arrington wrote:
> On 11/08/2014 11:12 AM, libreoffice-ml.mbourne wrote:
>
> > Are all the documents (old and new) in ODF Text (.odt) format? Or are
> > the older ones in Word (.doc) or OpenOffice 1.0 (.sxw) format? I'm
> > wondering if the options shown depend on the format of the document.
>
> Both are (and were originally created as) .ODT files. The old one was
> originally created on OpenOffice.org (I think 3.2) about 7 years ago.
>
> > Perhaps try opening one of the older documents and use File > Save
> > As... to give it a new name, ensuring ODF Text Document is selected
> > for the file type. Then close, and open the newly saved document. Does
> > it now have the new options?
>
> No change in the old file.

I'm not surprised, if they were all .ODT from the start.

> By looking at the contextual help, it's apparent that there are
> different options available based on the original file. .DOC files and
> newer .ODT files seem to get the new option ("numbering followed by")
> while older .ODT files have the older options ("width of numbering").
>
> But, once a file gets saved with a given outlining method, it seems to
> to keep that method forever. The only way it seems to change it is to
> insert the file into a empty document based on a template having the
> desired method.

Yes, it does sound like there are different ways the indenting can be 
saved within the ODT format, with older versions of LibreOffice / 
OpenOffice.org using one way and new versions using another way for new 
files (but still supporting the old, triggering different options in the 
dialog and saving back in the same way).

> > May be worth trying even if the original document is ODF, since it
> > might be an older version of ODF. I'm not sure though whether using
> > save as would save the new file in the same ODF version as the
> > original or whether the new version would be converted to ODF 1.2.
> >
> > If there's nothing confidential in them, are you able to post examples
> > of an older and a newer document, showing each set of options? I'm not
> > likely to have much time to look into them myself for a few weeks, but
> > perhaps others might spot some difference.
>
> I'll try to put something together to post to demonstrate the issues.
>
> btw, does this list accept screen shots in emails? If so, I can just
> send an email showing the different dialog boxes.

I don't think the list allows any attachments of any type, although I 
gather the Nabble interface can upload them somewhere and automatically 
include a link in the email. I don't recall noticing the two different 
sets of options, but think I understand what you mean about them. It 
would be the actual files I'm thinking might be useful, not just 
screenshots of the dialogs, to see what difference there is within the 
files to trigger the different dialogs. Might give some clue as to how 
to convert them.

Mark.


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