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Hello everyone,

On 26 juillet 2014 08:37:45 CEST, Pedro <> wrote:
Hi Owen

Owen Genat wrote

Pedro wrote
I think you are being an Open Source fundamentalist. Creating and
macros doesn't drag you to the dark side of the force...
No. But as Michael Meeks indicated (also linked upthread) it does
interoperability, portability, and transitioning from one product to
another /significantly/ more difficult.

Yes, it does. So the only step forward is for the FLOSS community
(LO/AOO/etc) to SOLVE it. Some automated tool to convert Macros from
VBA to
BASIC has to be implemented, otherwise this will ALWAYS be an obstacle.

Quoting the article on the Toulouse migration to LibreOffice you posted
another email: "Exemptions were granted to allow some staff to keep
Microsoft Word on their desktops together with LibreOffice [...] The
exemptions were given because some Word macros and sophisticated Excel
could not be reproduced in LibreOffice or other open source

Let us leave alone the fact that macros are not standardized and are user generated scripts the 
rely on application logic only creating a source of endless pains in migrations, Novell had been 
working on a project to "translate" macros from VB to Starbasic. It did have some results with 
simple ones but it did not prove satisfactory. 

Instead of making demands on thibgs that are supposedly blockers for adoption (and when these are 
solved there is automatically a new blocker because it is not about features parity as it is about 
the will to migrate) the real question is: who is readybto pay to implement this or that feature, 
knowing that often it will cost several thousands or tens of thousands of euros/dollars?

The question I am asking is not only about LibreOffice, it concerns every FOSS out there and a good 
example is OpenSSL. So when reading about Toulouse I feel happy but somewhat upset as to my 
knowledge they saved 1 million but never thought about fund any LibreOffice devloper for support. 
And yet they have the guts to make statements about we ought to do? I wonder what they would do if 
people stopped paying taxes and made demands to them everyday...




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