Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] Get ready for LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session

On 04/25/2014 08:40 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Hello Tom,
>
>
> Le 2014-04-25 15:35, Tom Williams a écrit :
> > On 04/24/2014 06:09 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > > Hi :)
> > > These bug-hunting sessions can be a great fun.
> > >
> > > It's only for a short time-period so you can find yourself racing
> > > against
> > > other people who are also new to it all.  Even if you know nothing
> > > about
> > > how to do it there are experienced people on-hand to help.  If you
> > > don't
> > > know coding then that can even be an advantage because you avoid
> > > getting
> > > embroiled in 'interesting' details.
> > >
> > > Sometimes these competitions have led to prizes, such as netbooks and
> > > things.  Bodhi Linux have such awarded a a few people netboks as top
> > > prizes.  The QA team here did the same around a year ago.  I think this
> > > time there isn't a prize but it's a good time to get in some practice.
> > > Good luck all!
> > > Regards from
> > > Tom :)
> >
> > Thanks for mentioning this.   :)    I think bug hunts are great, but I
> > need to ask this question:   how does the current backlog of bugs factor
> > in with these bug hunts?     I understand the bug hunts are great for
> > finding new bugs, but I've filed several bug reports, some of which have
> > been stagnant for over six months.
>
> Well you're right, it is about finding new bugs (or previously fixed
> bugs that may reappear) in the development versions. Actually, "old"
> or open bugs get fixed at every new release, while others get
> (unfortunately) introduced. That's the factor you were asking about I
> guess?

Not really.  I was asking how current backlog bug reports factor in with
these bug hunts.  As bugs are fixed in each new release, those bug
reports are eventually resolved and maybe even closed. They might be
reopened if a regression occurs, but that's something different.   I do
understand the need to find out if new features and functionality either
have problems, themselves, or possibly caused regressions but a
regression is a break of something that previously worked.   A bug
report that's still in "New" status, like my sample bug, hasn't been
fixed and my question is:  during these bug hunts, is there any effort
put into seeing if any of the backlog bug reports have also been fixed
or is the intent mostly to focus on the "new stuff," making sure new
features and functions work properly and to see if any regressions have
been introduced.

> > Here is an example:
> >
> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57116
>
> It's not really stagnant. As I read on the bug reports comments, you
> filed that bug against the 3.6.2 version. This version is obsolete;
> but someone actually tested the problematic behaviour with a 4.2.0 and
> the bug was no longer observed:
> "So even it is not informed here, it is solved for the releases in
> production."
>
> So it was fixed somehow. Please keep in mind that bug fixes are only
> brought to actively supported versions (the ones you can download from
> the website), not obsolete ones like the 3.6.x branch.

Yep, release 3.6.2 is certainly obsolete but that's the version of the
software in which I first experienced the problem.  I certainly hope bug
reports filed against *now* obsolete releases aren't being ignored.   
As for the status of my sample bug report being changed to "invalid",
I'm addressing that now since I experienced the same problem with Writer
4.2.3 on Windows XP.   :)

> > I'm excited about LibreOffice 4.3's release because the software keeps
> > getting better and better.  However, it's also a bit frustrating when
> > reported issues exist for a long period of time.
>
>
> I hope I have answered your question;of course there are always
> unresolved issues that are still in the actively supported versions.
> Devs try hard to squash these bugs, and are very successful at doing
> that, but there are always some leftovers.

Yes, you have and I appreciate your response.  :)

Peace...

Tom

> Cheers,
>
> Charles.
>
>
>
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Peace...
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > > On 24 April 2014 12:19, Italo Vignoli <italo@documentfoundation.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Document Foundation (TDF) announces the schedule of the first
> > > > LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session, which will start with the
> > > > availability of the first beta of the new major release in calendar
> > > > week
> > > > 21 (May 23 to May 25).
> > > >
> > > > Participating will be easy. Details of the bug hunting session are on
> > > > TDF wiki
> > > > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0),
> > > > where there is also a growing list of LibreOffice 4.3 new features and
> > > > improvements to check for bugs and regressions
> > > > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3).
> > > >
> > > > To participate, it will be necessary to have a PC with Windows,
> > > > MacOS or
> > > > Linux, and LibreOffice 4.3 Beta 1 (available at
> > > > http://www.libreoffice.org/pre-releases), plus a lot of enthusiasm.
> > > >
> > > > Filing bugs will be extremely easy, thanks to the help of experienced
> > > > volunteers who will be around on the QA mailing list
> > > > (libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org) and IRC channel
> > > > (irc://irc.freenode.net/#libreoffice-qa).
> > > >
> > > > A second LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session will be organized - with
> > > > the same pattern - immediately after the release of LibreOffice 4.3
> > > > Release Candidate 1, in mid June.
> > > >
> > > > Short link to TDF blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-uy.
> > > >
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