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On 03/29/2014 08:01 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
On 3/28/2014 1:33 PM, Mark Bourne wrote:
That's odd... for me, using the default character style picks up the font from the current paragraph style - so changing the paragraph style should work. Perhaps you have a default template where the paragraph style is initially set to something else, or the font is set by direct formatting? So try ensuring the current paragraph style is set to "Default Style", and do Format > Clear Direct Formatting.

Once you've fixed it, you can save the template (File > Save as Template) and set it as default (File > New > Templates, select the template, and click "Set as default").

If you can't fix the default template, or if it's easier to start again from scratch, you should be able to reset it by going to File > New > Templates > (cog icon) > Reset Default Template > Text Document.

I think I've discovered why I was messing up my character style fonts. It has to do what (what I believe) is the unique way LO sets global document fonts.

I've always controlled all of my formatting through my paragraph styles, which I've carefully created on a hierarchical basis. Thus, I've controlled my document fonts through the font in my Default (paragraph) Style. All my other paragraph styles are (ultimately) linked to Default, so I could control my document fonts by simply changing my Default (paragraph) Style.

But, I found that changing the font in my default paragraph style did *not* change the fonts in my character styles, which control such things as Footnote Anchors, Footnote Characters, and the like. Now, I've never really liked LO's character styles, but they do offer an additional measure of control, if also mixed with a measure of confusion. So, after changing the font in my default paragraph style, I would have to then go into my character styles and change the fonts in those that applied to my document.

But, while playing today, I found that, for fonts, there is a setting that is deeper than the Default Paragraph Style. It is the Basic Fonts setting found in the Tools>Options>Writer>Basic Fonts dialogs.

While knowing the Basic Fonts settings were available, I've always ignored them, thinking they were for people who didn't use styles. But, I discovered today that they will control the font in all styles until those fonts are changed in the given style itself or through direct formatting. That can be a great time saver, so long as I remember *not* to change fonts in the styles unless I truly need a font for a particular style that's different from the Basic Fonts settings.

I'm not sure I like this design. I would prefer all default formatting settings to be controlled in the default paragraph style itself, including the default font. I've been using LO and its predecessors all the way back to StarOffice, and this is the first I've realized the way the program handles default fonts and the importance of the Basic Fonts settings. I can only imagine how confusing this might be for those who are reluctant to use styles and understand how they are linked with the Basic Fonts.

So, going back to my earlier rant of there being too many ways of doing things in office suite word processors, with LO, you can set your document fonts (1) through the Basic Fonts in Options, (2) through modification of a Paragraph Style, or (3) through modification of Character Styles, or (4) through Direct Formatting. Imagine a document being written through collaboration with several workers, all using different methods, or worse yet, combining the methods. The result would be a disaster.


Which version of LO are you using - and the OS please?

For Deb-64 bit [from the LO download], I do not see this option in the list. - "Tools>Options>Writer>Basic Fonts dialogs"

There are options that show font options but not names "Basic Fonts Dialog" in my install of LO.

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