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Hi Dale,
First of all I do not want to copy/paste from DRAW to WRITER. Because I 
use same picture in many documents. I want to insert picture to the 
document as linked. In this case when I change the main picture file 
than all documents can change... This is very good for me... One change 
(work) and many results... :)

According to my demand the best solution is inserting all pictures as 
hard link in DRAW file and make all changes/arrows in DRAW file. And 
inserting this file as hard linked to WRITER...

In this case you may double-click to DRAW OLE and open the source file. 
Than you may change, adding arrow, shapes and return to main WRITER 
file... The biggest problem in this situation is, when I do this than 
size of the OLE container is changing. I can not fix the size of OLE and 
visible region of the resource OLE file!...


20-03-2014 01:21, Dale Rebgetz [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] 
Hi Mucip,

Is there a good reason for using OLE objects? I have used such for
putting tables (Writer) in Draw documents, simply because Writer has
much better table handling than Draw, but position control was a bit

When you add the arrows to the picture, where is the arrow being placed?
If you are using the Writer drawing tools to place the arrow, then it is
a different object to the picture, so they will behave as different
objects. If however you select the OLE object, then use its drawing
tools to add the arrows, the arrows will be part of the OLE object.
Then, repositioning the OLE object reposition the picture and arrows 
as one.

If you want to resize the picture and arrows as one object, the only way
I know to achieve this is to arrange both together in the Draw document,
select both, and Group them - which converts them to a single entity.

My work flow for similar tasks is as follows:

Drawings created with Writer/Draw: always create in Draw (better tools),
group all elements, then copy into Writer. If editing is required, copy
drawing into Draw, ungroup, edit, regroup, copy back. This might sound
inefficient, but for a complex drawing the overhead is negligible and
the productivity is far greater than trying to do the edit in Writer.
Note that editing the text of Draw text elements can be done in Writer,
and without ungrouping the object.

Pictures with overlayed drawing elements (e.g. arrows):
If the result will NOT require resizing: Create a frame in Writer, add
the picture to the frame, add the graphics to the frame. If the graphics
are complex, I first create them in Draw, then add as one object into
the frame. The frame should ideally not contain other text. i.e. it
should have just the one paragraph marker. By default the objects added
to the frame are linked to the nearest paragraph marker. With just the
one paragraph marker, the objects are easy to position within the frame,
and their relative position does not move as the frame moves. i.e. they
move as one object.

If the result WILL require resizing, then I would arrange them in Draw,
group, then copy to Writer.

I hope this helps.


On 19/03/2014 8:56 am, Mucip wrote:

I am writing manual book of machine. I've got many pictures. I 
import this
picture one by one to DRAW file and I put arrow sign or text box on 
points of the pictures.

I import this DRAW file as linked OLE object. But I can not center the
picture in OLE container/frame? When I adjust it once than it may 
later?! I can not fix the main picture region of the DRAW object in OLE

In MS Office you can add picture in the word file and you can add 
arrows in
the picture. Than all this object became like one solid. When you 
resize the
picture than arrows indicating same point of the picture... But in 
when you resize the picture than you arrow shapes not resizing?! 
This is
really big lack according to MS unfortunately?!


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