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The big reason I use PDFs is the embedded font option. I tend to use a lot of "unique" fonts in parts of my creation of newsletters and other similar documents. I use specialty fonts for page numbers and accent items. So, since most users would not have these fonts installed, I have to embed them.

Yes, this makes the PDF files larger, but that can be helped.

Most times, with PDF files, users like to have the exact font and page layout. With larger documents, the difference between the user's fonts and the substitutions can add up to some "weird" differences in the page formatting on some of the pages. I found out this "the hard way" where the original document was 4 pages, but the PDF version ran over onto a 5th page. That would not work for a 4 page [11x17 inch folded sheets] newsletter.

Actually, I have an older Adobe font "library" of their TTF and OTF formats. Yes I have the Type1 versions, but I do not use that font format. So if I want Adobe fonts, I will use the Adobe fonts. Or, I could just use the "standard" fonts that are installed on Windows for my document fonts. No substitutions involved. BUT, I do not usually do that. I use the fonts I want to use and embed them into the PDF files. I have been doing that since PageMaker 7 days, or earlier.

On 02/10/2014 03:10 PM, r_ouellette wrote:
I create pdf files since 1997 and I tried almost every possible way to do so
(Linux or Windows softwares). LO does one of the best job!

If you want really small and efficient pdf, do the following :

Menu > Tools > Options > Fonts

and add these 3 substitutions (even if you don't have these fonts installed
on your PC):

Arial > Helvetica
Courier New > Courier
Times > Times New Roman

and check « Allways » in front of each substitution.

This way you will use the always included 35 Type1 Adobe fonts that every
pdf reader provides and uses. True, Times is not Times New Roman but closely
related. You can do, of course, the sames substitutions with the equivalent
Liberation fonts too, so Liberation Sans > Helvetica... etc. The Type1 fonts
to use are Helvetica, Courier and Times.

Try to create a pdf with these substitutions on and with substitutions off,
you'll be surprised how small your pdf can be when the ttf fonts are not
embeded. Don't forget that the substitutions are not possible if you embed
the ODF document in the pdf (hybrid pdf) because all fonts are then

This is another option that should appear by default, with the « always »
choice unchecked but visible to give the user a real choice.


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