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Hi :)
Such attitude is dying out.

Modern devices almost entirely force people into top-posting and
almost all people new to mailing-lists will have no idea about the
possibility of doing anything other than top-posting.  Some allow
users to reconfigure their devices to bottom-post but it's beyond most

Bottom posting requires a ton of extra work such as trimming and such
which office workers really do not have time for.  it might have been
a better system but we let MS dictate how we do emailing and now we
have to live with that or accept increasing unpopularity.

Hopefully this mailing list helps people learn that bottom posting is
widely used in Open Source projects and helps them become more
familiar with doing so.  Other successful gateway projects also use
top-posting a lot, for example Firefox, Ubuntu and others.  Ones that
remain unpopular or have a hard time attracting new people (such as
Evolution) insist on bottom posting and sees almost all enquirers
leave rather than become involved.  It is sad but we kinda have to
live with the way things are rather than the way we might prefer them
to be.

Sadly, Open Source is still a minority amongst new users that we are
trying to attract.  Happily many of those seem to move on to using
other open source projects.

Errr, just a minor point but if someone posts something like this
off-list then it's a bit rude to throw their post into the lime-light.
 If you feel you must do so then please remove or hide their name but
it's better to just point out to them that their view-point is
important even if it might be unpopular.

As you have probably seen many on this mailing-list constantly
disagree with each other about almost everything and anything.  It's
something that makes Open Source great imo.  We all disagree but that
leads to us offering choices and diversity
Regards from
Tom :)

On 4 February 2014 23:22, Peter West <> wrote:
This sent to me off-list.

No further comment required.

On 5/02/2014 12:24 am, Anthony Baldwin wrote:

On 2/4/2014 2:59 AM, Peter West wrote:

Why is, do you think, that people feel the need to apologise on this
very list for bottom-posting? Because of my ad-hominem attacks? It must
be, because all the bottom-posters on this list are angels of
forbearance, while all the top-posters are repeatedly admonishing
bottom-posters to please, please, top-post.

Fellas, look in the mirror.

I will never apologize for proper behavior on mailing lists.

I don't waste time correcting those who top-post.
As Mark Twain said,
"Never try to teach a pig to whistle;
it wastes your time and annoys the pig."


-- Peter West "...and a sword will pierce through your own soul also..."

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