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Le Tue, 28 Jan 2014 12:56:25 +0100,
Dominique Michel <dominique.michel@vtxnet.ch> a écrit :

Le Mon, 27 Jan 2014 23:57:49 -0500,
Kracked_P_P---webmaster <webmaster@krackedpress.com> a écrit :


The last time I tested the language dictionary issue, there seemed
to a limit of 3 or 4.  I do not have the test document anymore that
had several non-English languages so retesting it would be a
problem for me right now.

Why talk about StarOffice at this point?  There has been so much 
modifications to the original code to make it OOo and then LO, you 
cannot rely on things working the same as it did back with
StarOffice. I have had font listing issues that came into being when
I went from one version of LO to another one, then it was fixed in a
later version.

The first move of Sun when they acquired StarOffice and begun with
OpenOffice was to restrict both the multi language capability of
StarOffice to 3 languages and its html capability. They called it
OpenOffice.
This was a little but tricky to install, but it was possible to make
it work with more than 3 languages even at that time.

They bring back the multi language capabilities one year later or so
in OpenOffice, and from that time it have just be working fine with
how many languages are available and installed.
At least on Linux.


The html capability is another story. It is only recently, after the
move to LibreOffice, that it have finally been updated, which I am
very grateful.

Dominique


Your launch coding is something that I have not seen before.  So it 
might help, as long as you know how to set up all of these users
files.

The macro idea is fine, if you can write one, which I cannot and
the potential users should not be asked to do.

Inserting "special characters" for Español [Spanish] and Français 
[French] is easy if you have a Unicode font or a good inclusive one
that has the needed characters when viewed with the Insert Special
Character option.  I have done that myself for a few things.


On 01/27/2014 02:38 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
Hi,

Kracked_P_P---webmaster schrieb:

The problem I have with "selling" LO to computer centers, both
regular and ones that teach English as a second language, is how
many languages can LO support at the same time.

I am talking about two ways.  1 - usable dictionaries in the
list.  2 - different languages you can change your menus to.

The first one is the key for me.

You have English, French, Spanish [3 regional versions], Italian,
and 4 or 5 other different language dictionaries, installed and
enabled, in the Extension Manager.  How many of those languages
are usable to the user writing documents in English and one or
two other languages at a time, then someone else sits down and
tried to use his or hers language[s] with English.  So how many
installed and enabled languages can be used at the same time?   I
was told there was a very small limited number.

I know no restriction. StarOffice was shipped with about fourteen 
languages and had over twenty Autotext variants. Why do not test
it?


Then the second is not much of a problem for me.  Yet, since you
can switch between language packs and their help packs, how many
can you install and be able to switch back and forth between
English and the other non-English languages?

Some as above, I know no restriction.


Of course, if a center worker needs to switch the menus back to
English, or to their default settings, how easy is it if the
person/worker does not read/speak the language the menu is
currently in?

If the language is bound to the person, you can use different
user settings and provide each user a prepared link to his
special user settings.
For example on Windows
"C:\Program Files\LibreOffice 4\program\soffice.exe" 
-env:UserInstallation=file:///f:/SoftwareLO/user_DE

will launch LibreOffice with the user settings in folder 
f:/SoftwareLO/user_DE. And this different user settings can use 
different languages in UI. You can even run LibreOffice one time
and have several calls to it with different user settings
parallel.

  Is it possible to
make a script to reset the "preferences" back to a default
instead of some manual copy/paste-over some file?

Changing the UI from one language to another for the same user 
requires to restart LibreOffice.


I do not use any language, other than American English, but
others do need to deal with more than one language.  I met a
lady a number of years ago.  She was from my area of the USA,
but she worked in Israel as a travel "advisor".  She had to use
several different packages of MS Office, since she needed to
write in English, French, Hebrew, and one other language that I
cannot remember the name of.  I told her that with the language
support of LO she could use it to write in which ever language
she needed to do.  I do not know if LO can write both English
and Hebrew, since one is left to right and the other is right to
left [if I remember correctly], but if the document was only in
Hebrew, or English, or French, no problems.

It is no problem. For example, if the person likes to use an
English keyboard layout, you can write a couple of macros to
insert the special characters of French. You can bind them to
short cut keys or provide a toolbar, where the icons show the
character. So they can be used without using the
Insert-Special-Character dialog and without remembering unicode
code point.

If the whole document is in a foreign language, than provide a 
suitable document template, where the language is already set in
the default template.

For switching inside a document you do not only have the already 
mentioned hard formatting methods, but you can define paragraph
styles for each needed language and collect them into a document
templates.

  One package can do what she needs to
do.  We have the language support and the spell checking
dictionaries to be added on with the language packs or via the
Extension Manager and a lot of various language spell checking
and other language aid extensions, sometimes several different
ones for the same language.

So multi-lingual users, multi-lingual computer center users,
etc., etc., need to know what the limits to the number of
languages supported at the same time for LO.

I suggest, to test it. All those packages are free, and you can
say 'I have tested it, it works at least with ...languages.'

Kind regards
Regina







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