Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request - Categories for special characters

On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 16:34:33 -0500
Kracked_P_P---webmaster <webmaster@krackedpress.com> wrote:

> On 11/15/2013 01:19 PM, Paul wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 18:06:05 +0000
> > jonathon <toki.kantoor@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > Sounds simple enough (and useful) to me, and I'm not sure I agree
> > > > with e-letter's objection above,
> > > Instead of the current theoretical maximum of 2000 page to search
> > > for a rarely used glyph, whose position is known, you'd have to
> > > search through 25000 pages for a glyph whose position is both
> > > unknown, and unknowable to all, except the creator of the font
> > > palette.
> > I really have no idea what you are talking about here...
> > How does 2000 or 25000 come into it at all? We're simply talking
> > about being able to filter the list by custom selections, be that
> > their 20-40 most used, "Engineering" symbols, or whatever.
>
> They are talking about Unicode fonts.  They could have 2 to 10
> thousand glyphs, depending on which language glyphs are supported.
>
> What you are asking may be in the "basic" special character sets in
> Basic Latin, Latin-1, Latin Extended A and B, among other glyph sets
> in a "well rounded" font.  There may be 100 to 500 glyphs in those
> sets in your "popular" fonts that are used.  The sets do have names
> that are defined by the "font standards", but I never remember the
> names or what goes where.

That still doesn't make any sense. What is this theoretical 2000
page maximum?

And why would the glyph's position be known? That's assuming you know
where the glyph is. Most cases you would only know what it looks like,
but not where it is in the list, hence why you would want some sort of
filter to make it easier to find.

And why would a filter on the special characters mean that you suddenly
need to search through 25000 pages? You would need to search through
*less* characters, not more, because you have filtered the list to only
show a subset.

As I see it, the major problem with this is that changing the font
changes the available special characters. So any subset that was
defined might not have all the characters available for the selected
font, but surely that could be shown quite simply?

Or would certain fonts have certain special characters at different
unicode locations, i.e. would different fonts have different symbols
for the same unicode point (or whatever it is called)?

And where does the current list of subsets come from anyway? Is that
defined within the font?

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