Re: [libreoffice-users] 64 bit

I've been trying hard to avoid this conversation as it's probably the 
1000th time I've seen something similar on the user list but coming from 
a developer/QA perspective, I think I can say something brief. The 
possible gains for these "power users" would probably be small and the 
amount of time to developer a true 64 bit version (on top of these 
requests to support 8 cores or whatever else that's requested) would be 
IMMENSE. We're talking about tens if not hundreds of thousands of 
dollars worth of developer and QA time. If you have a spreadsheet that 
is running that miserably I would recommend that any of these "power 
users" investigate if they are using spreadsheet correctly (vs. masking 
a database within spreadsheet, which is incorrect and in which case they 
should be learning how to use Database). I do have a few spreadsheets 
that are 40ish megs with quite a few charts and lots of formulas, but 
even these I could likely convert to a database if I took the time and 
probably see some gains in performance - but even these run "fast 
enough" and I would never ask developers to waste their time for these 
outlier cases of having insane spreadsheets.

At my old work my employer had made a 1 GB Spreadsheet and always 
complained about Excel's limitations - at which point I would quickly 
point out "no, although I'd love to pin this on Microsoft, this is in 
fact bad implementation on your part." I don't know the details of any 
of these Spreadsheets but from what I've seen in the past, these 
statements have rung true in most cases.


No offense at all, I encourage open conversation but I tend to see a one 
side conversation "THERE SHOULD BE A 64 BIT FLYING LIBREOFFICE THAT CAN 
BAKE ME A CAKE AND CALCULATE A QUADRILLION FORMULAS IN 0.0000001 SECONDS 
USING ALL 16 OF MY CORES!" - without the other side of the equation - 
"such a product would be incredibly costly and there are thousands of 
much more important things to get done that will benefit a lot more users."



All the best,
Joel

On 11/08/2013 06:30 AM, Simos Xenitellis wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@libertytrek.org> wrote:
>
> > On 2013-11-04 6:09 PM, josip prusina <josip.prusina.croatia@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi. From where download 64 bit version libreoffice for windows 8.1. 64
> > > bit.
> > > ? Link or manual tutorial for download 64 bit version..
> > Why do you think you need a 64bit version?
> >
> > Do you have any documents that are larger than 4GB? If so, then you need
> > to rethink how you are using Office Applications...
> I think the issue is, are there any technical issues that do not make it
> easy to have 64-bit LibreOffice packages on Windows?
>
> There are some technical issues, and Firefox is also distributed as a
> 32-bit package as well (Though you can look and find a 64-bit packages in
> the nightly builds, so power users are happy),
> http://thenextweb.com/apps/2012/12/22/mozilla-backpedals-on-firefox-64-bit-for-windows-will-keep-nightly-builds-coming-after-all/
>
> As described at the link above, it's good to figure out with numbers
> whether there are cases that a 64-bit LibreOffice has actual benefits (big
> document, etc). Having a 64-bit LibreOffice for Windows will help retain
> some power users.
>
> Simos


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