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2013/10/7 Tom Davies <>

Hi :)
I once read an amusing article "If operating systems were airplanes".  I
couldn't find the one i read but managed to pluck these bits from Zyra's
mad website.

Mac Airlines
All the stewards, captains, baggage handlers, and ticket agents are all
friendly and attractive but all look and act exactly the same.  Every time
you ask questions about details, you are gently but firmly told that you
don't need to know, don't want to know, and everything will be done for you
without your ever having to know.

Windows Air
The terminal is pretty and colourful, with friendly stewards, easy baggage
check and boarding, and a smooth take-off.  After about 10 minutes in the
air, the plane explodes with no warning whatsoever.

Linux Air
When you board the plane, you are given a seat, four bolts, a wrench and a
copy of the seat-HOWTO.html.
Once settled, the fully adjustable seat is very comfortable, the plane
leaves and arrives on time without a single problem, the in-flight meal is
wonderful.  You try to tell customers of the other airlines about the great
trip, but all they can say is, "You had to do what with the seat?"

I think nowadays exploding is less likely but when i replaced it with
"suddenly has to land and take off again" it stopped being so amusing.
Regards from
Tom :)

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On 10/06/2013 08:30 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Usually when you buy a desktop computer it already has Windows
installed.  Then after a couple of years the machine has become old and
slow and needs replacing so another Windows machine gets bought.  At no
point does anyone install Windows, or at least not many people.  People
usually just dispose of it and get a new one

By contrast, when you first start using Gnu&Linux the very first thing
you have to do is install it.  Since very few people have any experience
installing any Operating System that usually means learning a lot of very
technical stuff very quickly.  None of which you will need to know after
the system has been set-up.

Many people, such as Virgil, get stuck somewhere in the middle of the
set-up&install process.  Just as they would be hopelessly lost if they
tried to install Windows.  Actually with Windows they typically have a lot
more trouble.  Also with Windows they would know that it's an unusual
process and would probably seek help.  Whereas with Gnu&Linux they shy away
from help because they want to get established a bit first before risking
asking "stupid questions".

Of course that is exactly the wrong way around because once the system
is set-up then it's just simple point&click all the way, just as it is when
you have just bought a Windows machine from a shop.  About the only time
you need help with a Gnu&Linux system is while you are first installing it!

Tim at Kracked Press is still very confused about most of the
set-up&install process and has thoroughly weird, screwy, set-ups that i
wouldn't wish on my worst enemy but despite that has been successfully
using Gnu&Linux to do some quite amazing things that i wouldn't even dream
of trying
Regards from
Tom :)

Ha, Ha, Tom

I am not that confused, but I just have not done a lot of manual setups
or scripting on Linux, so a lot is "new" to me.

[What can you expect for a guy that had 3 strokes and not the time or
money to make my home, office, and equipment, the way I should have it.
tee hee tee hee.....]

Well, my setup is not to "screwy" either.  It works for me.  I just have
a lot of data and other files to deal with.

Yes, I have been using Ubuntu for a few years now.  BUT I do not have
any good book on it or Linux in general.  Yes, I tend to use a GUI for
my use and not do much in the command line.  I learn what I need, when I
need it.  I just do not have time to "pay around" with different
commands and packages just to learn how to do more.

I run Ubuntu with MATE desktop, plus some basic [default] KDE packages.
I just find the packages that work for me and use them.

I have 3 drives and one has 3 partitions.  /sda has the /home and OS
partition, plus two data partitions.  Then the other two drives are a
single partition each.  I have a "mess" inside the system due to issues
with the power cabling and such that came with the desktop.  But that
can only be fixed with a new power supply and maybe a new motherboard
and case.

ALSO, I have to have half of my living room as my home/office.  One wall
is full of shelves of network printers, paper, and most everything else
I need for my home/office use.

Yes, I would love to have an office that did not look a little like a
mad scientist's laboratory, but you have to take what you get and can
afford.  [anyone need a mad scientist's monster made for them? well the
transportation might be the issue since villagers tend to want to us
torches every time they see the "thing" heading to the airport.]

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