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Hahaha. I just wish we could have an agreed standard! ;-)

Ryan

On 27/08/13 00:15, Virgil Arrington wrote:
When will you guys across the pond realize that “normal” letter paper is 8.5 by 11 inches? Winking smile
Virgil
*From:* Tom Davies <mailto:tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>
*Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 7:04 PM
*To:* Info/UX <mailto:infoux@gmx.com> ; Virgil Arrington <mailto:cuyfalls@hotmail.com>
*Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org <mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org>
*Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?
Hi :)
Good point about using US-letter! That might make the biggest difference!

Even though US-letter is only widely available in the US and the rest of the world tends to print on A4 it is still fairly rare to find computers set-up to print to A4. That might make more difference than which method you use.
Regards from
Tom :)

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*From:* Info/UX <infoux@gmx.com>
*To:* Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com>
*Cc:* Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>; users@global.libreoffice.org
*Sent:* Monday, 26 August 2013, 23:40
*Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

Thanks, Virgil.

My documents are similar to yours. One last question then I'll give you
guys some peace. :-) Would making a page style with page size "letter"
and with a footer be considered LO specific? I don't need anything more
intricate than that.

Thanks for the tip regarding Atlantis. I only have Linux at home so will
probably stick with LO.

Thanks again. Your replies have helped a lot.

Regards,
Ryan

On 26/08/13 23:29, Virgil Arrington wrote:
> My documents tend to be *really* basic in terms of formatting.
> Typically, they are either legal or academic style papers. I'm a heavy
> user of paragraph styles and won't work without them.
>
> I tend to do my entire document as an .odt and then at the end convert
> to .doc as necessary. I'd use the paragraph styles, but I would avoid
> LO specific methods.
>
> Another option is a shareware word processor called Atlantis. It's a
> lightweight clone of pre 2007 Word (e.g., no ribbon) with a $35.00
> registration. I often use it when Word compatibility is paramount. It
> does nearly everything *exactly* like Word. I honestly don't know why
> MS hasn't sued them, it's that close. It doesn't support tables, but
> other than that, it will handle simple formats very well and will
> produce a result that Word should read fairly well.
>
> Virgil
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Info/UX
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 5:38 PM
> To: Tom Davies
> Cc: Virgil Arrington ; users@global.libreoffice.org <mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org>
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported
> to other software/formats?
>
> Thanks, Tom, Virgil.
>
> If I wanted to use different text body styles throughout I would
> probably have made new styles and called them text body 1, 2, etc.
> Luckily nothing like that is needed in this case. But I have created my
> simple template with basic paragraph and page styles.
>
> So, in trying to process the information in both of your replies, I feel
> I now have two options: (1) Keep with the MS formats (.docx, but .doc if
> possible) and format with minimal use of LO's special features (even so,
> I'd rather use styles than format everything manually), (2) Start a
> blank .odt and copy and paste my article content and load the styles
> from my template and save to doc later (and maybe then to docx on a
> windows machine).
>
> Which method do you think would give the best results? The priority is
> for the finished pieces to look consistent in MS Word... and also allow
> other people to edit the .docs in Word with minimal quirky things
> going on.
>
> Thanks for all this advice.
>
> Regards,
> Ryan
>
> On 26/08/13 21:18, Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> If you can use MS Office to do some final proof-reading then you are
>> unlikely to have any problems.
>>
>> We have been assuming that is not possible and that would make the
>> final outcome uncertain.  Being able to quickly scroll through before
>> sending it out into the world kinda eliminates that uncertainty.
>>
>> If you can keep all your 'originals' in Odt format and then at the
>> end convert to Doc format then you should find that there are no
>> surprises.
>>
>>
>> Virgil seems to be talking about a very specific set of styles or
>> method of using styles.  He is talking about changing styles (such as
>> changing the font of "text body") on different pages within the same
>> document.  If you need to do that it might be worth creating
>> duplicates of the styles and then modifying the duplicates?  I'm not
>> sure how to deal with that but Virgil has probably found a
>> work-around if needed.
>>
>>
>> I would keep copies of photos/images/art/logos near the original Odts
>> just in case you do run into problems.  LO does have an extremely
>> rare intermittent bug that is difficult to pin down but seems to be
>> getting rarer and rarer as code clean-up goes on.  You know that you
>> can rename files from .Odt or .DocX to .Zip and then double-click to
>> see the Xml coding inside along with folders for various things such
>> as images. Sometimes it can be a neat way to fix problems but it's a
>> bit risky.  The Xml tags and such are very different in the 2 formats
>> so just renaming .Odt to .DocX might create fairly serious problems.
>> Stick with the "Save As ...".  the Doc format doesn't open in that
>> way and doesn't hold images in an image format which is another
>> reason i suggest keeping a copy of images nearby.
>>
>> Also i have sometimes found that mysterious things happen during the
>> course of a Word document.  So to save myself a lot of time i tend to
>> start with a fresh new Odt and then use
>> Ctrl Shift v
>> to paste in "unformatted text" and then apply styles (and maybe
>> modfied the styles after to watch the mod ripple through the
>> document). Occasionally i have wanted to "just do something quickly"
>> and then been frustrated by some weird bit of insane MS formatting
>> that just keeps throwing up problems until i relent and do the "start
>> again from scratch" approach which has then typically taken just a
>> few minutes even if the problem seemed intractable.
>>
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Info/UX <infoux@gmx.com <mailto:infoux@gmx.com>>
>> *To:* Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com <mailto:cuyfalls@hotmail.com>> >> *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org <mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org>
>> *Sent:* Monday, 26 August 2013, 19:23
>> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles
>> exported to other software/formats?
>>
>> Thanks, Virgil.
>>
>> I can probably alter any lists when I work in an MS environment at the
>> final stage of formatting.
>>
>> Regarding page formatting — I'm wondering if I use slightly more
>> advanced features of LibreOffice to get my results whether it would
>> cause more problems when working in Word. I am trying to keep the
>> process relatively simple. The articles only need to have consistent
>> fonts and spacing and perhaps one page break for the bibliographies. I
>> have starting created a LibreOffice template with customised paragraph
>> styles and some changes to the page style. I was planning to apply this
>> to the .docs. As long as 90% or so of my formatting would transfer to
>> Word, I don't mind making some manual adjustments at that stage.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ryan
>>
>> On 26/08/13 13:00, Virgil Arrington wrote:
>> > In my experience, most paragraph styles tend to translate well to
>> > MS-Word formats. However, I've had problems with the alignment of
>> > automatic numbering and/or bullets. LO and MSW seem to align them
>> > differently.
>> >
>> > One bigger difference, however, is the way the two formats handle page
>> > formatting. LO uses page styles to change formatting from one page to
>> > another, whereas Word does not. It uses section breaks to make such
>> > page formatting changes, and I've found discrepancies in translating
>> > page formatting between the two.
>> >
>> > Virgil
>> >
>> > -----Original Message----- From: Info/UX
>> > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:38 PM
>> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org <mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org> <mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org <mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org>>
>> > Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to
>> > other software/formats?
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Apologies if this is a basic question. I've been given some
>> documents to
>> > format according to certain style guidelines. The files are mostly
>> .docx
>> > and .doc and must be sent off in this format. I work only with
>> > LibreOffice. My questions is, if I format the articles using paragraph
>> > and page styles rather than just directly changing the format in the
>> > body of the document, will the formatting be maintained when the
>> > documents are opened in MS Office? I am not concerned with small
>> > discrepancies that can be tweaked later on, rather whether this method
>> > of formatting generally transfers well. Again, sorry if it's a silly
>> > question.
>> >
>> > Many thanks.
>> > Ryan
>> >
>>
>>
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