Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't find setting

On Sun, 18 Aug 2013, Andrew Brown wrote:

> [...]
> And the true purpose of punctuation, is for reading both vocally and in the 
> mind, in that order, the one cannot be divorced from the other.
> [...]

German requires a comma between main clauses and subordinate clauses, 
for instance:

"ich sehe, dass er redet" or "I see that he's talking."

there is no breath between those clauses in German or English.

German also capitalizes every noun; what aspect of vocalization is 
that supposed to correspond to? apostrophes aren't vocalized either.

two different media, speech and written word, one for the eye, one for 
the ear.

f.


> On 17/08/2013 09:22 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
> > On 08/17/2013 12:56 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
> > > At 10:47 17/08/2013 +0200, Andrew Brown wrote:
> > > > In the read word punctuation taught us when to take a breath, as with a 
> > > > continuous sentence separated by a comma, and a long full breath after 
> > > > the period, plus a space.
> > >
> > > This suggests that the point of the printed word is solely to enable 
> > > public speaking.  Those of us who can read without moving our lips do not 
> > > need breaths between sentences!  I can breathe and read at the same time; 
> > > can't you?  The true purpose of punctuation in written material is to 
> > > clarify the structure of the material, not to indicate the pauses that 
> > > might occur if the material were read aloud.
> > >
> > > > Now even as we type to each other in this email, we are using a sans 
> > > > serif font ...
> > >
> > > That's what you think!  You sent this message in plain text, so no font 
> > > was identified.  How I read it or anyone else does depends on how we 
> > > decide or our mail clients choose to display it.  I'm doing the same: you 
> > > don't know how this appears to me as I'm composing it and I don't know how 
> > > you will see it.
> > >
> > > Brian Barker
> >
> > In Thunderbird's Preferences, you can choose what font the text of your 
> > email will be displayed in. By default, it seems it is "Times New Roman", 
> > but I now use "DejaVu Serif".  I then get to choose what font the email is 
> > written in, with the current default as "Times".  I just chose "DejaVu 
> > Serif" for the font of this text that I have typed here.
> >
> > So, you can decide which font you wish to display any text that does not 
> > have a font identifier built in, and you can define the font of the text 
> > you are sending in your email, more than one if you choose.
> >
> > As for punctuation and word spacing, try reading old Greek text or others 
> > of that era like that where they seem to not use spacings and punctuation 
> > in their text.  We need them whether we read a text out load or silently. 
> > The internal punctuation gives you structure and also gives you a sense of 
> > "pausing" where the author wants such a thing to emphasize some word or 
> > portion of the text.
> >
> > The punctuation in the sentence change the meaning of the sentence just by 
> > changing, adding, removing, key internal punctuation marks.  Of course over 
> > the 30+ years between high-school and the last college writing course, the 
> > standards and rules have changes on what is needed where and how best to 
> > use a comma or semicolon. But without these in the text of books that I 
> > personally like to read, it would not be as easy to read as it is now.
> >
> > As for which fonts are best to use where, well whole college courses and 
> > majors can be needed to make the "best guess" on the science of what fonts 
> > are best for what and which fonts are "more readable" than others.  Book 
> > Publishers know what it best in the different types of books that publish. 
> > One font for text books, another for entertainment reading.  The hard cover 
> > book fonts can be different than the paper back ones as well.  There is a 
> > science involved in the choosing of the "proper" fonts.  I just decide 
> > which looks best for me for ease of reading.  I am told Serif fonts work 
> > the best for "entertainment" reading, but which serif font is the best, 
> > only you can decide which one in your fonts collection works best for you.
> >
> > .

--
Felmon Davis

Nagging is the repetition of unpalatable truths.  -- Baroness Edith 
Summerskill

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