On Sun, 18 Aug 2013, Andrew Brown wrote:
And the true purpose of punctuation, is for reading both vocally and in the
mind, in that order, the one cannot be divorced from the other.
German requires a comma between main clauses and subordinate clauses,
"ich sehe, dass er redet" or "I see that he's talking."
there is no breath between those clauses in German or English.
German also capitalizes every noun; what aspect of vocalization is
that supposed to correspond to? apostrophes aren't vocalized either.
two different media, speech and written word, one for the eye, one for
On 17/08/2013 09:22 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
On 08/17/2013 12:56 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
At 10:47 17/08/2013 +0200, Andrew Brown wrote:
In the read word punctuation taught us when to take a breath, as with a
continuous sentence separated by a comma, and a long full breath after
the period, plus a space.
This suggests that the point of the printed word is solely to enable
public speaking. Those of us who can read without moving our lips do not
need breaths between sentences! I can breathe and read at the same time;
can't you? The true purpose of punctuation in written material is to
clarify the structure of the material, not to indicate the pauses that
might occur if the material were read aloud.
Now even as we type to each other in this email, we are using a sans
serif font ...
That's what you think! You sent this message in plain text, so no font
was identified. How I read it or anyone else does depends on how we
decide or our mail clients choose to display it. I'm doing the same: you
don't know how this appears to me as I'm composing it and I don't know how
you will see it.
In Thunderbird's Preferences, you can choose what font the text of your
email will be displayed in. By default, it seems it is "Times New Roman",
but I now use "DejaVu Serif". I then get to choose what font the email is
written in, with the current default as "Times". I just chose "DejaVu
Serif" for the font of this text that I have typed here.
So, you can decide which font you wish to display any text that does not
have a font identifier built in, and you can define the font of the text
you are sending in your email, more than one if you choose.
As for punctuation and word spacing, try reading old Greek text or others
of that era like that where they seem to not use spacings and punctuation
in their text. We need them whether we read a text out load or silently.
The internal punctuation gives you structure and also gives you a sense of
"pausing" where the author wants such a thing to emphasize some word or
portion of the text.
The punctuation in the sentence change the meaning of the sentence just by
changing, adding, removing, key internal punctuation marks. Of course over
the 30+ years between high-school and the last college writing course, the
standards and rules have changes on what is needed where and how best to
use a comma or semicolon. But without these in the text of books that I
personally like to read, it would not be as easy to read as it is now.
As for which fonts are best to use where, well whole college courses and
majors can be needed to make the "best guess" on the science of what fonts
are best for what and which fonts are "more readable" than others. Book
Publishers know what it best in the different types of books that publish.
One font for text books, another for entertainment reading. The hard cover
book fonts can be different than the paper back ones as well. There is a
science involved in the choosing of the "proper" fonts. I just decide
which looks best for me for ease of reading. I am told Serif fonts work
the best for "entertainment" reading, but which serif font is the best,
only you can decide which one in your fonts collection works best for you.
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