Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 4.1 - Help with "Help" please

Hi Tom

Many thanks indeed for your comprehensive, speedy reply to my “m’aidez” (and my thanks too to Oscar 
for his ‘auto-reply’).

I use IE and – more recently – Firefox: in light of your advice, I’ll make much more use of the 
latter in the future.  In addition, I’ll follow your advice to download and install the 2nd package 
from the LO downloads page. 

Many thanks too for sending me details of the extensive help that is available through the full 
guides that you list: I’ll look at them for sure.

Again my thanks

Regards

Peter



From: Tom Davies 
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:40 AM
To: Peter Hunt ; users@global.libreoffice.org ; Websites@Global.LibreOffice.Org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 4.1 - Help with "Help" please

Hi :)  

Please just click on accept and install the certificate even those MS claim it is dodgy.  It's 
annoying that MS still haven't accepted our certificate into their store.  



I take it that you use Internet Explorer as your default web-browser?  Have you ever tried Firefox 
or any of the other choices out there?  FIrefox, Opera, Safari, Chrome and pretty much any other 
web-browsers are far safer and faster than IE.  Although we sometimes argue amongst ourselves about 
which is better than the others they are all FAR better than IE in my experience.  


Internet Explorer is made by Microsoft and they are quite keen to get people to buy their newest 
versions of their own Office Suite and dissuade people from using anything else.  Also IE appears 
to have considerable trouble with all sorts of issues that most others would consider security risk 
and it (IE) doesn't get updates out to people quickly enough to deal with problems.  Just as the 
Eskimos have many words for snow and ice, so MS has many words for different sorts of security 
issues.  MS keep their own store of certificate and use their own way of authenticating 
certificates but that doesn't seem to help them become secure.  They block ones that are safe (such 
as their rivals) and allegedly let through ones that aren't.  

However, you can keep using IE if you want to.  It's also quite normal for people to have at least 
2 web-browsers installed and maybe use each for different things or at different times.  


Also you might find it better to install the 2nd package from the downloads page, the in-built 
help.  Once downloaded you install it.  It 'needs' to be installed sometime after the initial 
install of the main program but that could be a year or 2 later and after extensive use of LO.  
There is no need to do it straight-away although most of us do them both at around the same time to 
avoid forgetting to do so.  


Since you are just starting out with LO you might find the full proper guides quite useful
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
They do have an entire team working on those so they are sometimes a bit more up-to-date than the 
in-built help.  It's good to have both but if they conflict then it's the Publications that are 
more accurate.  There is also an Faq
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq
but you might find the courses at "Spoken Tutorials" are the best way to learn quickly and 
thoroughly

http://www.spoken-tutorial.org/list_videos?view=1&foss=LibreOffice-Suite-Writer&language=English

Note they have a lot of different non-European languages but their English is surprisingly 
impeccable and friendly.  



So, my suggestions are; 

1.  install and accept the certificate or else just install the in-built help that was also on the 
downloads page but just accepting the certificate is the faster answer

2.  Quit using IE and use something safer, faster and more reliable.  Firefox, Opera, Safari, 
Chrome seem to be the most popular (not necessarily in that order)
3.  install the Help package that was also on the downloads page.  This way you don't need to 
connect to the internet to reach the help package each time you click F1
4.  Download the guides you need or want from the wiki.  I bought the "Getting Started Guide" and 
will probably buy the "Base Handbook" too.  

5.  Use http://www.spoken-tutorial.org to learn about how to use all sorts of OpenSource tools 
(such as Firefox or Chrome as well as LibreOffice)

Regards from 

Tom :)  








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  From: Peter Hunt <peterhunt100@outlook.com>
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
  Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2013, 9:18
  Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 4.1 - Help with "Help" please


  Hello

  I have just downloaded and installed – with great ease, thank you – the latest version of 
LibreOffice.  Being new to the suite of programs, I needed help early on so I pressed F1. My 
browser opened and I was given the text below.  I tried other methods of accessing the online help 
but always found the same result.

  Help please!

  Thank you

  peter hunt



        There is a problem with this website's security certificate. 
      
          
      The security certificate presented by this website was issued for a different website's 
address.

        Security certificate problems may indicate an attempt to fool you or intercept any data you 
send to the server.  
          We recommend that you close this webpage and do not continue to this website.  
          Click here to close this webpage.  
          Continue to this website (not recommended).  
            More information  

      

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