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thanks for the answers so far, however my question isn't answered yet.

@Tom: Well, it's also my plan to stick to using styles. The problem here is not the odt-format itself, but it's the somewhat "messy" implementation in LibreOffice. As I said, when manually removing direct formatting (which hasn't been applied anyway) I get

<text:p text:style-name="Title">This is my title</text:p>
<text:p text:style-name="Text_20_body">This is a text body paragraph.</text:p>

in "content.xml", which is straight and clean odt-formatting. However, my trouble is the default behaviour of LibreOffice, that it defines all those styles "P1", "P2", "T1", ... which are apparently perfectly meaningless and unnecessary.

So, who knows how to get rid of this overhead by default? Or should this be considered a bug?


On 08/16/13 01:57, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
I find it easier to stick to using styles and then sometimes edit the styles as a i go along.

I don't know of any format that doesn't throw in tons of extra formatting. Rtf is probably the one with the least extra random bits of unused code but it's a legacy format that is out dated already. Have you compared with the coding in other formats? I think Odt manages to a void a lot of the personal information that gets stored in Doc and DocX. I've not really looked at other formats much.
Regards from
Tom :)

    *From:* anne-ology <>
    *To:* Holger Schmithüsen <>
    *Sent:* Thursday, 15 August 2013, 19:27
    *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Why does writer create
    automatic styles for every new element?

          A simple solution - my method - is to merely type whatever
    then add
    whatever options as I go along;
                this saves time in that I know what's what.

          If you set these templates, then decide that the title should be
    smaller, or wish to set off some quote, or add some footnote, ...
    ... ...
    then you're stuck with whatever the template wants.

          I basically did/do the same thing when writing HTML - in
    fact, now,
    I have quite a lengthy page of HTML code which I apply whenever
    necessary -
    sure saves time having to remember what's what.

          Just some thoughts from the KIS corner  ;-)

    On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Holger Schmithüsen < <>> wrote:

    > When I create a new Writer document, each element I enter in the
    > (like a heading or paragraph) adds new elements to
    > <office:automatic-styles> in "content.xml", even though I do not
    use any
    > direct formatting. So, selecting style "Title", entering the
    title, then
    > selecting "Text Body" and entering a paragraph creates the following
    > automatic styles in "content.xml":
    > <office:automatic-styles>
    > <style:style style:name="P1" style:family="paragraph"
    > style:parent-style-name="Text_**20_body">
    > <style:text-properties officeooo:paragraph-rsid="**00063317"/>
    > </style:style>
    > <style:style style:name="P2" style:family="paragraph"
    > style:parent-style-name="**Title">
    > <style:text-properties officeooo:paragraph-rsid="**00063317"/>
    > </style:style>
    > <style:style style:name="T1" style:family="text">
    > <style:text-properties officeooo:rsid="00063317"/>
    > </style:style>
    > </office:automatic-styles>
    > and the actual content:
    > <office:body>
    > <office:text>
    > <text:p text:style-name="P2"><text:**span
    text:style-name="T1">This is my
    > title</text:span></text:p>
    > <text:p text:style-name="P1"><text:**span
    text:style-name="T1">This is a
    > text body paragraph.</text:span></text:**p>
    > </office:text>
    > </office:body>
    > Now, I can delete the unwanted direct formatting by clicking
    "Format -
    > Clear direct formatting". Then, the content looks as nice and clean:
    > <text:p text:style-name="Title">This is my title</text:p>
    > <text:p text:style-name="Text_20_body"**>This is a text body
    > paragraph.</text:p>
    > However, this removal of unnecessary direct formatting is not very
    > appropriate, as I sometimes do have direct formatting (a
    subscript for
    > instance).
    > Is it possible to suppress Writer's behaviour of defining those
    > meaningless automatic styles? And if not, is it possible to get
    rid of only
    > the meaningless direct formatting, i.e. those <style:style>
    elements, that
    > do not contain any formatting attributes?
    > I'm using LibreOffice Version
    > Thanks for your help,
    > Holger

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