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Hi :)
My guess is thatUbuntu created an 11Gb Extended Partition purely to put the 11Gb Swap in.  Not 
quite sure why it did that but the installer tries to make sure your system stays reasonably 
flexible for the future
Regards from 
Tom :)  

From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster <>
Sent: Wednesday, 7 August 2013, 12:45
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: start up speed

Just to give you a "bloat alert".  My Ubuntu 12.04 LTS system, after all 
of its updates and upgrades from the repository, and the fact that it 
seems a lot of the older packages were left on the system, my OS folders 
now total about 98-GB.

1,000 GB total
less 78.7 GB free space
less 823.5 GB in the /home folder and sub-folders
making all of the other folders in the "filesystem" totaling 97.8 GB for 
the OS.

This OS figure also includes the 11 GB swap and a 11 GB extended 
partition [for what Ubuntu uses it for I do not know, but it created it].

So take away the 22 GB of partitions outside of that main partition, you get
75.8 GB of OS file space for 12.04LTS plus the two partitions it needs 
to run.

If I used a 10-15 GB for the OS, I would be sunk.

I do not separate the /home into its own partition, since all of the 
docs and "help" seems to confuse me on how to set up all of the 
different partitions during the install process.  In a few months, I 
hope to replace that 1 TB drive with a 2 TB one.  I planned on creating 
a 500 GB partition for the OS file system including the OS, /home, and 
the needed swap and other partition[s] needed.  The rest of the drive, 
1.5 TB, will be used as a separate data "drive" so I can have a smaller 
/home folder size and keep everything not actively worked on out of the 
/home folder.

Also, I have taken a 2 TB internal drive and used it for the first stage 
backup, or internal backup, of the essential /home folder files, like 
the "hidden dot folders" and things like my photo folder that contains 
sub-folders by year and then month of all my digital photo since Sept. 
2005 - when I bought my first digital camera.  I have a whole box of 
photos needing to be scanned in from the early 70's to then, that I will 
"one day" get around to scanning an archiving.

Unfortunately, I have more internal drive space than external drive 
backup space.  So I need to start buying more of those drives to back up 
my system.  It does help that most of my 2nd 2-TB drive is used as an 
internal backup, so it currently does not need external a separate 
external backup.  But I do have one 1-TB and two 2-TB drives, currently, 
and later at least 6-TB [maybe 7, 8, or more] internal storage to be 
backed up externally.

On 08/07/2013 04:18 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
I tend to make / around 10-15Gb now for Ubuntu.  100Mb is about enough for a separate /boot 
partiiton but not enough for the / of most distros, especially not for the most bloated distro 
of all.  I've found that even 8Gb gets in trouble quite quickly unless you are quite good at 
doing maintenance such as using the Janitor fairly often.

You don't get much of a performance boost by having a separate /home unless that /home is on a 
physically separate drive but it does make he system more robust and safer to upgrade.
Regards from
Tom :)

From: Andrew Brown <>
Sent: Wednesday, 7 August 2013, 8:19
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: start up speed

Ubuntu install is the same, if using the default install options it
creates the swap partition (at least equal to installed RAM amount), and
then then one partition for all. I change this and like many here,
create the root / (100MB), and the balance of the drive capacity to
/home, keeping my data separate.


Andrew Brown

On 07/08/2013 07:53 AM, Doug wrote:
On 08/07/2013 01:05 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
If you have your /home on a separate partition then it might be possible to install the 64bit 
version of Ubuntu without disturbing your 32 it version.  I tend to use a 10-15Gb partition 
for / for Ubuntu.  It doesn't really need all that much space but Ubuntu is about the most 
bloated distro at the moment.  Having plenty of space makes it easier when installing 
Regards from
Tom :)

I did that on PCLOS. It works well, altho a few apps that are strictly
32-bit will not run on the 64-bit installation.I lost Adobe Reader on
the 64-bit os, because there is no 64-bit version of that s/w. I had to
go find a 64-bit version of one or two other programs. But basically,
it's a lot simpler than having to back up all your files to an external
storage medium and then having to copy everything back to a completely
new install.

You will have to make a new blank partition on the drive, using
gparted or something similar, and format it to ext4 and call it /
Then when you install the 64-bit version, DO NOT format /home,
only / (Your distro may or may not make it mandatory to reformat /
during the install, even tho you formatted it already.)

Be careful when you install the 64-bit os, so as to NOT make a new
/home. Note that you probably already have a swap partition, so
don't make another one. Any and all Linux os's on the disk can use
the one swap.

It has been quite a while since I did an Ubuntu install, so I can't
be more specific. And I don't think I would try this with Korora--
its installation would drive a saint crazy! (Just to get it onto
two partitions is maddening!)

Good luck--doug

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