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From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster <webmaster@krackedpress.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wednesday, 7 August 2013, 12:45
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: start up speed
Just to give you a "bloat alert". My Ubuntu 12.04 LTS system, after all
of its updates and upgrades from the repository, and the fact that it
seems a lot of the older packages were left on the system, my OS folders
now total about 98-GB.
1,000 GB total
less 78.7 GB free space
less 823.5 GB in the /home folder and sub-folders
making all of the other folders in the "filesystem" totaling 97.8 GB for
the OS.
This OS figure also includes the 11 GB swap and a 11 GB extended
partition [for what Ubuntu uses it for I do not know, but it created it].
So take away the 22 GB of partitions outside of that main partition, you get
75.8 GB of OS file space for 12.04LTS plus the two partitions it needs
to run.
If I used a 10-15 GB for the OS, I would be sunk.
I do not separate the /home into its own partition, since all of the
docs and "help" seems to confuse me on how to set up all of the
different partitions during the install process. In a few months, I
hope to replace that 1 TB drive with a 2 TB one. I planned on creating
a 500 GB partition for the OS file system including the OS, /home, and
the needed swap and other partition[s] needed. The rest of the drive,
1.5 TB, will be used as a separate data "drive" so I can have a smaller
/home folder size and keep everything not actively worked on out of the
/home folder.
Also, I have taken a 2 TB internal drive and used it for the first stage
backup, or internal backup, of the essential /home folder files, like
the "hidden dot folders" and things like my photo folder that contains
sub-folders by year and then month of all my digital photo since Sept.
2005 - when I bought my first digital camera. I have a whole box of
photos needing to be scanned in from the early 70's to then, that I will
"one day" get around to scanning an archiving.
Unfortunately, I have more internal drive space than external drive
backup space. So I need to start buying more of those drives to back up
my system. It does help that most of my 2nd 2-TB drive is used as an
internal backup, so it currently does not need external a separate
external backup. But I do have one 1-TB and two 2-TB drives, currently,
and later at least 6-TB [maybe 7, 8, or more] internal storage to be
backed up externally.
On 08/07/2013 04:18 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
I tend to make / around 10-15Gb now for Ubuntu. 100Mb is about enough for a separate /boot
partiiton but not enough for the / of most distros, especially not for the most bloated distro
of all. I've found that even 8Gb gets in trouble quite quickly unless you are quite good at
doing maintenance such as using the Janitor fairly often.
You don't get much of a performance boost by having a separate /home unless that /home is on a
physically separate drive but it does make he system more robust and safer to upgrade.
Regards from
Tom :)
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From: Andrew Brown <andrewbr@icon.co.za>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wednesday, 7 August 2013, 8:19
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: start up speed
Ubuntu install is the same, if using the default install options it
creates the swap partition (at least equal to installed RAM amount), and
then then one partition for all. I change this and like many here,
create the root / (100MB), and the balance of the drive capacity to
/home, keeping my data separate.
Regards
Andrew Brown
On 07/08/2013 07:53 AM, Doug wrote:
On 08/07/2013 01:05 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
If you have your /home on a separate partition then it might be possible to install the 64bit
version of Ubuntu without disturbing your 32 it version. I tend to use a 10-15Gb partition
for / for Ubuntu. It doesn't really need all that much space but Ubuntu is about the most
bloated distro at the moment. Having plenty of space makes it easier when installing
programs.
Regards from
Tom :)
I did that on PCLOS. It works well, altho a few apps that are strictly
32-bit will not run on the 64-bit installation.I lost Adobe Reader on
the 64-bit os, because there is no 64-bit version of that s/w. I had to
go find a 64-bit version of one or two other programs. But basically,
it's a lot simpler than having to back up all your files to an external
storage medium and then having to copy everything back to a completely
new install.
You will have to make a new blank partition on the drive, using
gparted or something similar, and format it to ext4 and call it /
Then when you install the 64-bit version, DO NOT format /home,
only / (Your distro may or may not make it mandatory to reformat /
during the install, even tho you formatted it already.)
Be careful when you install the 64-bit os, so as to NOT make a new
/home. Note that you probably already have a swap partition, so
don't make another one. Any and all Linux os's on the disk can use
the one swap.
It has been quite a while since I did an Ubuntu install, so I can't
be more specific. And I don't think I would try this with Korora--
its installation would drive a saint crazy! (Just to get it onto
two partitions is maddening!)
Good luck--doug
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