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Hi :)
We just got an Oki MB471

Dead easy to set-up to print and does all the duplexing and everything just fine.  Oki had a ppd 
driver on their website.  

There is no driver for faxing and i haven't tried scanning yet either.  

I thought the whole thing was going to be a total nightmare in Gnu&Linux because our Oki C810 still 
doesn't work.  There was a ppd for the C610 but that doesn't work for the 810.  The main problem 
for me is that there seems to be hundreds of drivers that are listed through OpenPrinting and 
places specifically for the C810 but none of the ones i have tried so far work at all.  

So, i was quite surprised that it took about 10mins per machine to sort the MB471 in Gnu&Linux but 
about an hour to go through the Windows installer.  

Hewlett Packard just seem to be easy whichever system you are using.  They seem to last longer and 
even appear in  2nd hand listings which hardly any other printers do.  Ages ago i asked this list 
for advice about the best printer to choose and got some good advice which my boss ignored.  

Regards from 
Tom :)  

From: Andrew Brown <>
To: Kracked_P_P---webmaster <> 
Sent: Wednesday, 31 July 2013, 22:46
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing specific pages in 4.1 writer

Hi Kracked_P_P

You have me all quizzy now about it too. I own a Brother MFC-J6510DW 
large format multifunction printer, quite a process to set it up in 
Ubuntu (like you from 10.04 to present 13.04) and this box was ticked by 
default in LO's settings. I will experiment with it unticked and see if 
it affects my printer.


Andrew Brown

On 31/07/2013 09:33 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

When I had the issue with the duplexing on one printer, it seemed that 
everyone who was "helping" must have been on Windows, since they did 
not know what I was talking about with the "extra" dialog check box.  
Why it is listed in the Linux [Ubuntu 10.04LTS and 12.04LTS for me 
back then] and not in the Windows installs, I was never given a good 
answer.  I was told that "it was just needed for Linux and not for 
Windows".  Then the fact that for some printers the check box needed 
to be checked, while other did not, tended to make the issue a little 
worse to figure out.

On 07/31/2013 06:21 AM, Andrew Brown wrote:
Hi Kracked_P_P

OK, you are correct in that there is an extra dialogue box for the 
Linux version of LO, in my case LO running under Ubuntu 
130.04 Raring Ringtail. See the screenshots below now from Linux. If 
others want to see this then I will make an entry on Nabble.

The print settings seem the same except for the extra tick box to do 
"PDF as Standard Print Job Format"


Andrew Brown

On 31/07/2013 09:56 AM, Andrew Brown wrote:
HI Kracked_P_P

As to my statement, here is a screenshot of the Windows version of 
LO indicating the option to check "Use LiberOffice 
dialogues" under "General". I'll look under my Linux (dual boot) to 
see what you are referring to. You should see these screenshot, but 
it will be stripped when forwarded onto the global mail.

Nothing under the "Print"  section


On 30/07/2013 04:26 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

Last time I checked, Windows version did not have the --- "Use 
LibreOffice dialogs" in the "Print dialogs" section.

I do not think the Print dialogs would be, or should be, listed 
under open/save dialogs section.  That would not make sense. Are 
you saying the "print dialogs" check box is actually listed in that 
section of the "General" dialog box?

Well, I have not installed 4.1 yet, but the "Print dialogs" option 
was shown on the DEB 64-bit version [Ubuntu 12.04 and 13.04 
installed] and not on the Windows version [Win7 professional and 
home premium installed]

When I was having all my issues with my printer[s] not duplexing 
correctly, it seemed that most of the people who tried to help were 
Windows users.  None of the even suggested the "print dialog" 
check/uncheck option.  After a few weeks, I just started 
experimenting and found that checking the "print dialogs" option 
would make the Epson Artisan 810 printer duplex correctly.  The HP 
Laserjet 2300dn duplexing worked either way.  Now that I have a 
Cannon MG6220 to replace the Epson, I have not unchecked that box 
to see if the duplexing still worked.

On 07/30/2013 03:05 AM, Andrew Brown wrote:
Hi Kracked_P_P

One correction, your last statement, the option to check "Use 
LiberOffice dialogues" is available for Windows users under the 
same "Tools / Options / LibreOffice / General". In this part of 
the "General" settings it's under the heading "Open/Save dialogues".


Andrew Brown

On 30/07/2013 02:11 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
On 07/29/2013 03:36 PM, sun shine wrote:
Hello list

On a Debian like system (Mint 14), my newly installed 32-bit 
LibO-4.1. is creating a bit of problems for me. This latest 
issue is trying to print specific pages within a Writer 
document: the print dialog box does not allow editing the 
specific pages text box. In order to make this work - i.e. to 
select the pages I wanted - I closed LibO4.1. and re-opened it, 
then it worked.

Anybody else experienced this?

I've had two relatively minor issues with Writer LibO-4.1 
(password-related and the page selection for printing mentioned 
here) which don't really inspire confidence as these are 
features that have been preserved since the OOo days ... so not 
at all sure why they don't work as expected with the 4.1 release.

Anyway, will continue to test 4.1 for a while, but am inclined 
to roll back to 4.0.4 for doing work at this point.


I do not use Mint due to printer issues.  The biggest one 
wasthatit would not recognizeor even find it on my network my 
main network color printer that Ubuntu has not problems 
finding/using. But it would see it via a USB cable.  I had other 
printer/driver issues for it to print "properly" on the other 
printers on my network.

You are running 32-bit Mint 14?  Mate or Cinnamon desktop?
You removed the previously installed version of LO, correct?

Did you have any problems with 4.0.4 printing page selections?

In Tools / Options / LibreOffice / General
have you checked "Use LibreOffice dialogs" in the "Print dialogs" 

Check it if not.  If already checked [which I used for Ubuntu 
12.04LTS] then un-check it.  See if that changes anything. This 
option does not show up with the Windows users, so they would not 
know this.  I had to check it to get one of my printers to duplex 
properly.  I am told others need to have it unchecked for their 

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