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Hi Tom

Actually, I preferred your first reply :-)

But, your second was more to the point of the OP.


On 25/07/13 11:45, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Errr, ok, i have re-read this and think i misunderstood a few things.

Yes, people do keep going on about security and the dangers of the internet (usually hypocritically) but we do keep your personal data about as safe as, or possibly safer than the Pentagon keeps there's or the space station keeps their command&control systems, or the stock-exchanges around the world keep their's. Like all of them we use one of many unix-based systems. Hmm, not all stock-exchanges are as safe and definitely not all banks! Windows is ok as a desktop but it's not good enough when security is critical. There are many things that would be considered a security problem in unix-based systems that Windows doesn't even worry about at all, such as being forced to shut-down a machine.

1. You keep your existing internet connection. If you want to use a different one from your existing one that has nothing to do with us and if you do change then that doesn't affect us at all. As long as you get access to the internet that's all that matters really.

2. Your hotmail account or other email accounts remain the same. Again that is nothing to do with us. if you change to a different email account then you would have to re-subscribe with the new one. So, it's probably easier to just keep the one you have.

Your emails come through your internet connection but if you changed email account or got a 2nd one then that would come through your internet connection too. You could have lots of different email accounts with lots of different companies or even lots from the same company but it's usually better to keep it simple and just have 1 or 2 email accounts. Your "internet service provider" (=isp) does not need to know about what email accounts you have. If you do ever change your isp then they also don't need to know about your email accounts. Your isp might want to know your email address so that they can write to you.

3. You can keep using Outlook. It is just a tool for reading emails. If you have lots of email accounts then you can probably get Outlook to collect them all for you but you would have to configure Outlook to do that. If you are temporarily without internet access then Outlook can probably show you your old emails but it just wont get any of the new ones until you connect again.

People may tell you that you "have to" change to something else for any of those 3 things but that is much the same as telling you to eat greens or eat more fruit. They might think other tools are better for you but it's your choice as to what you use.

Please ignore my earlier post! I thought the question was about something else.
Regards from
Tom :)

    *From:* sun shine <>
    *Sent:* Thursday, 25 July 2013, 10:03
    *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] couple questions

    On 24/07/13 16:12, Bill Zaffer wrote:
    > I heard about your system on Corbett Report.  The reason I would
    want to join is do not want NSA checking my emails or other forms
    of communications. Am I protected with your site.
    > Also, if I join your system, do I drop my Cox Internet
    Connection or still keep it plus with emails do I get to keep my
    Outlook or hotmail accounts?
    > William Zaffer
    > Scottsdale, Arizona
    > 480-201-7387
    > Stop being exploited, learn to eat healthier at home, learn to
    live a Earth Friendly lifestyle, shop local, and buy more American
    but  moderate consumption.  We need to rethink and restructure the
    system.  It is not sustainable.
    >        "If you’re not prepared to be wrong, you’ll never come up
    with anything original.”

    Hello Bill

    You may have some misunderstanding about this email list. I'm no
    but what I can say is this and others will no doubt correct me and
    more info too:

    (1) this is an email-based discussion/ support list for people using
    LibreOffice, an open source alternative to MS Office. It does not
    require you to join anything (although you can subscribe for
    nothing to
    receive replies to your emails - hence I've cc'd you, since I
    don't know
    if you subscribed or not). The good news is that because LibO is open
    source, the chances for the NSA to have a backdoor access to this
    is vanishingly small ... although, of course, using Microsoft as your
    operating system already means that the NSA have a backdoor into your
    system - that is to say, that Microsoft is a surveillance enabled
    in its own right. This is a link to a
    search for microsoft nsa backdoor giving 524,000 results.

    (2) this will in no way stop the NSA from reading your emails. If you
    want to do that, you have some options. One is to review find out who voted
    "No" to
    the Amash Amendment and lobby those to actually represent the
    of the American people in matters of privacy and civil liberties (2nd
    and 4th Amendment Rights) rather than fuel the paranoid Security
    Industry agenda for Full Spectrum Dominance. Another would be to
    visit <>as well as choosing
    software alternatives from

    (3) If you wanted a more secure email, sign up for Hush Mail which
    claims to encrypt your emails and not to record IP addresses <>or just create
    phoney Google accounts, and use a
    proxy or a VPN to log into and use these.

    (4) This site does not provide an ISP, so you will have to keep your
    existing Net provider unless you decide to opt for an alternative.

    I hope this helps clarify some things for you.

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