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Hi :) 
Congrats on solving this yourself!!  Not an obvious answer!  So, nicely done! :))  Also thanks for 
sending the answer back to us but i think the weird new way of the mailing list meant it 
accidentally didn't go to the list.  I've just sent it back to the list as there didn't seem 
anything potentially embarrassing or private in the message.  


Ida's answer was;  


sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

So the 1st part refreshes her package manager's "repositories" to get the full list of 
easily available software.  Confusingly apt-get calls that "updating".  
Then the double "&" means something like "do the next command if the previous one did work".  Then 
apt-get further confuses the issue by calling the "update packages" process an "upgrade".  Upgrades 
are usually a LOT heftier 
than updates and generally involve downloading a newer version, for 
example going from 4.0.2 to 4.0.3.  LibreOffice doesn't currently do updates.  Updates are 
typically such things as patches that just add a bit to an existing program.  


That sort of command usually leaves a bit of extra cruft on the system, such as the downloads 
themselves.  Those are no longer needed because apt-get has already used them to install whatever 
was in the downloads and in that process might also have left bits of the downloads in 
unzipped/uncompressed form (although i suspect that apt-get is not quite so inelegant).  So once 
every few months i use something like

sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get autoclean

(i'm not great at combining different commands into a  single command).  Alternatively, in Ubuntu, 
you could use the Janitor to get rid of all sorts of other cruft too as part of a "spring clean".  


Regards from 

Tom :)  





________________________________
From: Ida Louise Johnson <eyeljay@gmail.com>
To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> 
Sent: Friday, 24 May 2013, 20:08
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with Menu Bar in 4.0.3



Tom,
Thanks for getting back to me on this. While I was waiting for a reply I did some more searching 
online and found the following:

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

That worked and all is well on my end. Not really concerned about the help, glad to be able to use 
the menu bar.
Again, thanks




Some of it's magic! Some of it's tragic! But I've had a good life always! - Jimmy Buffett

Ida Louise
Researching: Johnson, Major, Roberts, Higgs, Turnquest, Barry/Berry, Dean



On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Hi :)
Don't worry about missing the in-built help.  The English version is not great.  Plus you have to 
download it and install it separately (which is probably the problem you are having)
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/

The non-English versions get cleaned up a lot during translation but the English one is worth 
avoiding.  Try the proper guides instead
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications


The menu-bar sounds as though the themes in Ubuntu have stuffed it up.  Try changing "Appearance" 
of the whole of Ubuntu and that should clear up.  If you then change back to the theme you like 
it might stay fixed in Libreoffice too.  Alternatively it's probably just that you need to 
install the "Desktop Integration" packages from inside the sub-folder in the
 installer.  Choose the 1 that is not KDE.  Even though you are not really using Gnome it still 
works anyway.  

Please let us know how you get on or if you need any of that de-geekifying.  
Good luck and regards from 
Tom :)  






________________________________
From: Ida Louise Johnson <eyeljay@gmail.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2013, 19:24
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Problem with Menu Bar in 4.0.3


I was able to upgrade to 4.0.3 from 3.5 but could not install the help. I
get the message unable to locate package.

I am able to open my spreadsheet, but can't access the menu bar. When I
click on the options of the menu bar, I get the drop down menu but the menu
is black and I can't see the options. If there is an arrow on the drop down
menu, the option is white and once again I can't see the option.

My operating system is Ubuntu 12.04. I would love to be able to sort my
spreadsheet, but at this time it's impossible without access to the menu
bar.


Some of it's magic! Some of it's tragic! But I've had a good life always! -
Jimmy Buffett

*Ida Louise*

Researching: Johnson, Major, Roberts, Higgs, Turnquest, Barry/Berry, Dean

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