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Hi :)
Grrr i thought the Raspberry Pi was using an Atom chip but it's using an Arm11 :(  So, i have been 
talking a complete load of nonsense.  

It might be worth asking on the devs list to see if anyone there is willing and able to 
compile/build the 4.02 on an Atom or ask them for help building it yourself.  It will take ages.  I 
get the impression you have to leave it running overnight (or whenever you do sleep) in order to 
avoid too much frustration.  Also the first time you try it it might well not pan out quite right 
so you might need to redo it.  Hence why i suggest asking the devs if they can do it.  However once 
you do get it done it should be far better as a result.  If you get help from the devs they might 
be more willing to accept it as an official build which might  help other people.  

Apols and regards from
Tom :)  





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From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster <webmaster@krackedpress.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Saturday, 6 April 2013, 18:11
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How I can reduce the loading speed of Calc ?


Which version are you going to use?

I understand there are two now, one based on Ubuntu and the other based 
directly on Debian.

I had difficulties with installing networked printers - Canon and Epson 
inkjets - when I tested Linux Mint on a computer I attached to my TV for 
media streaming for YouTube and other Internet content.  Otherwise it 
worked well.

Are you going to go with Cinnamon or MATE desktop, or the non-GNOME 
ported ones.

As for using RPi's version of LO, it was compiled fore its hardware and 
OS system so it might not work well at all on an Atom system.

I do wonder how hard it would be to compile LO to a specific system and 
its hardware.  I know it would take a real long time to do the compiling 
on a slower systems.

On 04/06/2013 12:56 PM, JR75018 wrote:
Thanks Tom and krackedpress,

I keep this idea and will have a look later. After four days I will be on
LinuxMint...


2013/4/6 Tom [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] <
ml-node+s969070n4048241h51@n3.nabble.com>

Hi :)
So the trick would be to try to download and use the LibreOffice from the
Raspberry Pi people.  Compiling yourself takes a ridiculously long time.
If the RPi one does work then it's an instant win
Regards from
Tom :)





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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How I can reduce the loading speed
of Calc ?

I have heard that the RPi system uses a Debian based OS that was
"modified/compiled" for the RPi, and that the LO version for the RPi was
compiled from the Debian-based source code to work efficiently on the RPi's
specific architecture.  The RPi speed is similar to a P4 300 to 700 MHz
depending on the OS, the model [A or B],  and tweaks to the hardware.
The good news for US, LO and TDF, is the RPi is near its 1 million mark
of made/sold units and its default office package is LibreOffice.  Even if
a quarter of those some units have had the user installed LO on them, that
will give LO a set of young [or no so young] users.  The user count for
that could be 200,000 or more world wide.  Getting the young school kids
started with LO should tend to make them want to use LO on more traditional
and more powerful systems.
As for the RPi/Pi system. . . . .
It was designed for the education market.  They are inexpensive basic
one-board systems to help teach school age kids how to program in a few
languages, like Python, and by using a attachable controller to be able to
create simple [and complex] electronic devices/system for robotics and
controller systems.  They were meant to be low costing entry level systems
for those kids and schools that did not have the budgets to buy all of the
needed "units" for their computer lab to have one computer per student in
the lab.  Actually, with the SD card having both the OS and data/programs,
the student could have a RPi at home and bring in the SD card he/she was
using and work on the same OS and data/program in the school's lab.  No
need to have a networked server with student accounts and such.  The RPi
was designed to work as well as it could at the lowest cost possible to the
schools and the kids.

Atom based, and similar, systems were not powerful enough for my needs
for home/office and mobile needs.
So I forgot all of the tricks and tweaks that could be used in the slower
systems still out there for used systems and for sale in the small
foot-print system that have Atom and similar speed/power CPUs.

For me, even a single core AMD 3500+ CPU with 512 - 1,024 MB RAM desktop
seems too slow for my needs.  My Intel dual core T3200 2.0 GHz CPU and 3 GB
RAM DELL laptop seems slow to me now.  My new[er] dual core Intel Pentium
B950 2.1 GHz with 4 GB RAM Gateway laptop is better, but not up-to my quad
desktop I bought in Feb 2010.  I needed the power/speed of the quad for my
home/office use.

On 04/05/2013 10:28 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Sadly i suspect that it's really going to take someone building it from
source code in order to make much faster.  Current builds and standard
downloads are built against very different architecture.  It might be worth
exploring the Pi project to see if they have a usable build but that might
still be not quite perfect on other Atom machines.  The Pi one is likely to
be shed loads better even if not quite perfect.
Sorry, i should have thought of it before!
Apols and regards from
Tom :)




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      On 04/05/2013 03:22 AM, JR75018 wrote:
      > Hi krackedpress,
      >
      > This is accounting. I try to explain in details:
      >
      > Three lines and for each three columns of numeric datas and two
      of text .
      > Two colums are the sums of the expenses for each account => for
      one of them
      > I have 24 lines and three colums: one for text, one for the
      expenses and one
      > for the dates. For the two others I have three columns : one of
      text  and
      > two of expenses. For one of this both account  I have 25 lines
      and for the
      > last one 8 lines. I have two celles more with a sum in each.
      Nothing more
      > complicated except different colors. 18 cells with sums.
      >
      > My LO version is 4.0.1.2 (in french).
      >
      > Number of operations : 100.
      > Memory for LO : 20 Mo
      > Memory per item : 5,2 Mo.
      >
      > My file : 24,6 ko (28 on the disk).
      >
      > Thanks.
      >
      > Jacques

      Thanks

      Yes, the sheet is not complex enough for the file to be large and
      slow.

      We must have a user out there that knows tricks for speeding up
Atom
      systems.


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