[libreoffice-users] Google; OOXML and ODF support wrt XSLX import/export filter funding

Hi :)
Moving away from MS formats seems a pretty smart move around now.  There are so many different 
versions of XlsX (2007's version, 2010's and now presumably 2013's).  


I thought Keith's post was interesting because it seems people have spent some serious money just 
to find out what we already felt was the case.  I think Google still are a supporter of TDF but 
seem to have lost their way a bit.  

Regards from
Tom :)  





> ________________________________
> From: Keith Curtis <keithcu@gmail.com>
> To: Zeki Bildirici <zeki@ozgurlukicin.com> 
> Cc: marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 March 2013, 22:50
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Google and ODF support!
>
> That is amazing. Google wrote this in their analysis of OpenXML:
> (https://forums.scc.ca/forums/scc/dispatch.cgi/public/showFile/100294/d20070705225348/No/objections%20by%20Google.pdf)
> -----
> "Although OOXML may formally comply with Ecma, it was clearly not
> designed with an “open” spirit. Comparing the current with the future
> situation, interoperability is likely to become more difficult instead
> of easier. The implementation of a fully compatible ODF importer (the
> current efforts regarding .doc and .xls) is not an easy task, but it
> is dwarfed by the implementation of a fully compatible OOXML importer,
> which we estimate to take something between 50 – 500 person years, or
> even longer. Therefore, although it is theoretically possible to
> generate an OOXML document, this document will probably only use a
> very small subset of the standard.
> In sum, OOXML can be compared to Microsoft giving access to a
> labyrinth to which it alone owns a map; moreover, certain tunnels
> within this labyrinth are not accessible without a key that only
> Microsoft has, and that third parties would need to replicate first.
> (And, in doing so, these third parties would not know whether they
> would violate any rights that exposes them to litigation)."
> -----
>
> It is sort of sad Google would reverse course and act against their
> own interests. Also, I wonder why they didn't help to port LibreOffice
> rather than buying QuickOffice. The current Android efforts in
> LibreOffice are less than one person I believe. Imagine what Google
> could have done with 5-10, let alone buying the proprietary
> QuickOffice which employed 400 people.
> (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2018361838_apustecgoogleofficeapps1stldwritethru.html)
> I suspect part of their decision was that they didn't want to take a
> risk on "LibreOffice", but it does seem they have too much money.
>
> -Keith
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Zeki Bildirici <zeki@ozgurlukicin.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > As you know Google currently is not supporting Open Document Format
> > native in its services. Today i saw this article
> > http://www.muktware.com/4529/why-google-killing-open-document-formats#.UTYr7U44lHE.twitter
> > and remembered this issue.
> >
> > This article explains the situation quite well. I don't know the
> > reason why Google does not support ODF, maybe it was discussed here
> > before. But i think we may try to push Google to support ODF.
> >
> > I don't think there is a reasonable explanation for ignoring ODF and
> > supporting MS Office formats and forcing people to convert their ODF
> > to Google Docs format.
> >
> > Btw for comparasion, -yes not Skydrive of course- Yandex company with
> > growing popularity in Turkey and Russia supports ODF in its Disk
> > service. It may be an example for good aproach to ODF.
> >
> > What do you think about Google's positioning for ODF? Can we manage to
> > force/attract Google to support ODF? I've mentioned and asked
> > htps://twitter.com/cdibona about this matter but no replies yet
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Zeki
> >
> >
> > - http://support.google.com/drive/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2423485
> >
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