Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

On 02/22/2013 05:37 AM, Paddy Landau wrote:
> Thank you all for your responses. It is helping me to learn more.
>
>
> doug-2 wrote
> > I was recently looking at Mint … You need to find a good set of True-Type
> > fonts and install them.
> As jowyta wrote, install ttf-mscorefonts-installer (it comes with the Ubuntu
> repositories, which you should have as Mint is derived from Ubuntu).
>
>
> jowyta wrote
> > So I think the answer to this question is that what LibreOffice displays
> > depends on which Webdings font you have installed on your machine.  The
> > font is not part of LibreOffice.
> That's what I would have thought, which is why am confused; Libre Office is
> /not/ displaying the same characters as are installed.
>
>
> jowyta wrote
> > I think the answer to solving the discrepancy is to stick to Unicode fonts
> > which should be consistent across all systems.
> Yes, it is looking that way.
>
>
> krackedpress wrote
> > I have seen this issue with same font name but different font.
> I've searched my machine, but I have only one copy of Webdings, so that
> doesn't seem to be the problem.
>
>
> krackedpress wrote
> > … if you really need a character glyph, that is not a letter, to be the
> > same between systems, make it an image and use that and not a font.
> I think that this is the lesson that I have learned from this thread!
>
>
> krackedpress wrote
> > That is why I never send editable documents to a person that I know might
> > not have the EXACT font[s] that I am using.
> Yes, I do that too.
>
>
> krackedpress wrote
> > I do not even use Export to PDF, but CUPS-PDF.  I know CUPS-PDF will embed
> > the font but I do not know if Export to PDF will embed the more
> > "specialty" ones.
> Export as PDF will embed non-standard fonts by default, but not the 14
> standard Postscript fonts. However, Export as PDF has an option, "Embed
> standard fonts", which will embed all fonts used in the document:
>
> https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Export_as_PDF#Embed_standard_fonts
>
> This makes "Export as PDF" safe to use. (Note that it includes only the
> characters that are used, so you can't depend on this for PDFs with forms to
> fill in.)
>
> As an experiment, I created a document with the Webdings font and the
> character Ò (i.e. the in-box), exported as PDF (without the "Embed standard
> fonts" option), and copied that to a Windows machine. The Windows machine
> showed the PDF the same as on Linux Ubuntu.
>
> Looking further, I see that somehow Libre Office is using the Character  Map
> that is on Windows, not on Ubuntu. I.e., this is in agreement with jowyta,
> who says:
>
> jowyta wrote
> > The allocation of character codes to Webdings does not seem to be
> > consistent and I have been unable to find an authoritative list.
> How Libre Office does this, I do not know! It must have the Webdings built
> in somewhere, but hidden.
>
> Although my question has not been answered, I shall take this as resolved:
> the resolution is to prefer images to image-fonts.
>
> Thank you again everyone for your answers.
The wording of "embed standard fonts" is my problem.  What does LO mean 
by a "standard font".  Many of my fonts are not anywhere near 
"standard".  The last time I used Export to PDF, not all of the fonts I 
used were embedded, but only a selected few.  If it will embed ALL of 
the specialized and decorative fonts I may use in a document - think 
holidays and other things that are no where near business related - then 
it would be useful.  The only real time I Export to PDF is when I create 
a PDF file of a landscape orientation document.  CUPS-PDF creates 
portrait ones only, so far as I can determine.  That was a few versions 
ago.  Since CUPS-PDF is my default "printer" I tend to use it instead of 
Exporting to PDF.  I use this for my web page and email printouts so I 
do not waste paper printing pages that I do not need.

AS for character not on the keyboard, I use the Insert Special Character 
option and browse through the different fonts to select the correct 
glyph that I need.  Yes, I have looked at both "Garamond" normal/roman I 
have installed and they have some different glyphs beyond the "standard" 
keyboard characters/glyphs. The same "character number" having different 
glyphs.  Same name but different glyphs included.  Right now, I looking 
at my font list and will start removing some of these "double" fonts and 
see about keeping the better versions of them.


--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted