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On 02/22/2013 05:37 AM, Paddy Landau wrote:
Thank you all for your responses. It is helping me to learn more.

doug-2 wrote
I was recently looking at Mint … You need to find a good set of True-Type
fonts and install them.
As jowyta wrote, install ttf-mscorefonts-installer (it comes with the Ubuntu
repositories, which you should have as Mint is derived from Ubuntu).

jowyta wrote
So I think the answer to this question is that what LibreOffice displays
depends on which Webdings font you have installed on your machine.  The
font is not part of LibreOffice.
That's what I would have thought, which is why am confused; Libre Office is
/not/ displaying the same characters as are installed.

jowyta wrote
I think the answer to solving the discrepancy is to stick to Unicode fonts
which should be consistent across all systems.
Yes, it is looking that way.

krackedpress wrote
I have seen this issue with same font name but different font.
I've searched my machine, but I have only one copy of Webdings, so that
doesn't seem to be the problem.

krackedpress wrote
… if you really need a character glyph, that is not a letter, to be the
same between systems, make it an image and use that and not a font.
I think that this is the lesson that I have learned from this thread!

krackedpress wrote
That is why I never send editable documents to a person that I know might
not have the EXACT font[s] that I am using.
Yes, I do that too.

krackedpress wrote
I do not even use Export to PDF, but CUPS-PDF.  I know CUPS-PDF will embed
the font but I do not know if Export to PDF will embed the more
"specialty" ones.
Export as PDF will embed non-standard fonts by default, but not the 14
standard Postscript fonts. However, Export as PDF has an option, "Embed
standard fonts", which will embed all fonts used in the document:

This makes "Export as PDF" safe to use. (Note that it includes only the
characters that are used, so you can't depend on this for PDFs with forms to
fill in.)

As an experiment, I created a document with the Webdings font and the
character Ò (i.e. the in-box), exported as PDF (without the "Embed standard
fonts" option), and copied that to a Windows machine. The Windows machine
showed the PDF the same as on Linux Ubuntu.

Looking further, I see that somehow Libre Office is using the Character  Map
that is on Windows, not on Ubuntu. I.e., this is in agreement with jowyta,
who says:

jowyta wrote
The allocation of character codes to Webdings does not seem to be
consistent and I have been unable to find an authoritative list.
How Libre Office does this, I do not know! It must have the Webdings built
in somewhere, but hidden.

Although my question has not been answered, I shall take this as resolved:
the resolution is to prefer images to image-fonts.

Thank you again everyone for your answers.

The wording of "embed standard fonts" is my problem. What does LO mean by a "standard font". Many of my fonts are not anywhere near "standard". The last time I used Export to PDF, not all of the fonts I used were embedded, but only a selected few. If it will embed ALL of the specialized and decorative fonts I may use in a document - think holidays and other things that are no where near business related - then it would be useful. The only real time I Export to PDF is when I create a PDF file of a landscape orientation document. CUPS-PDF creates portrait ones only, so far as I can determine. That was a few versions ago. Since CUPS-PDF is my default "printer" I tend to use it instead of Exporting to PDF. I use this for my web page and email printouts so I do not waste paper printing pages that I do not need.

AS for character not on the keyboard, I use the Insert Special Character option and browse through the different fonts to select the correct glyph that I need. Yes, I have looked at both "Garamond" normal/roman I have installed and they have some different glyphs beyond the "standard" keyboard characters/glyphs. The same "character number" having different glyphs. Same name but different glyphs included. Right now, I looking at my font list and will start removing some of these "double" fonts and see about keeping the better versions of them.

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