Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document

Hi :)
Doc is the older MS format and it is generally possible to open in pretty much any office program.  
It's rare but possible to find the odd one or 2 rare cases that don't open fairly perfectly.  Those 
rare cases probably open slightly differently in different office programs so try AbiWord, 
google-docs, KOffice/Caligra or anything else.  Of course MS had to move away from that format for 
various reasons, perhaps such as 
1.  security issues had been widely reported over the years
2.  why would people pay to upgrade to the newer version of their office program if there current 
one or free ones worked?  
Any MS format is likely to suffer from interoperability issues because of that 2nd alleged reason.  
Remember Rtf and the infamous court case?  

DocX is the newer MS format and even MS Office has troubles with it.  A document written in MSO 
2007 is unlikely to look quite right in MSO 2010 or 2013 or 365 and vice-versa.  You are kinda 
pushed into finding out what most other people are using and then buying that version.  It gets 
worse.  According to the MS installer for MSO 2010 a document created in MSO 2010 on Xp will 
probably look different in MSO 2010 on Win7.  

So, if you want to share documents or archive them to read some day in the future then the best bet 
for most people right now is to save in the older MS format.  The one that has been  known to have 
security problems over the years.  

However, Odt is being used more and more often.  MSO 2010 used the older version despite everyone 
else using the newer one so documents didn't always look quite right.  MSO 2013 has promised to use 
the 1.2 version that everyone else has been using for years.  It's more reliable because it's not 
dependant on the whims of just 1 company and many companies get together to agree on it.  

MS is unlikely to go bankrupt any time soon.  The greater danger is that they keep 'accidentally' 
not quite implementing formats in they way that they promise through their ISO standards agreements 
or documentation.  It's allegedly why Rtf failed according to the court case.  

The other inevitable problem is that any editable document will look diffeent on different machines 
anyway.  Different default printers, different paper-sizes, perhaps screen-resolution (unlikely) 
and a whole slew of other variables all affect the way text flows on a document.  

The standard answer is to send a Pdf along with the editable version.  

Btw the English phrase "I'm afraid" should only be used sparingly and never by a fearless user of 
OpenSource.  Stay smug and aloof.  Let people continue to use whatever cr#$£*p they are determined 
to use but just sometimes let them know when their documents are likely to or already have failed.  
If you can install LibreOffice without them being unhappy and without it potentially getting you in 
trouble then do.  

Once the programs that can handle ODF are out there then it's easier to get people to use the 
format.  
Regards from
Tom :)  





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> From: C. H. D. <webofht-libreoffice001@yahoo.com.hk>
> To: LibreOffice User Support Mailing List <users@global.libreoffice.org> 
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 7:27
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
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> Hello!
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> Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use it.)
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> I think it is an interoperability issue.
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> I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if LibreOffice can open them. 
> This is the authentic test.
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> I cannot contact the author since the document was downloaded randomly.
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> If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also open them correctly.
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> If Microsoft went bankrupt, what office suite would be able to handle thousands of .doc files?
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> Then, the data in the .doc files would be lost if no other office suite was able to open them, I 
> am afraid.
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> Not many people like converting .doc files into .odt files, I am afraid.
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> Regards,
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> C. H. D. 
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> 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
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> On 11/02/2013, C. H. D. <webofht-libreoffice001@yahoo.com.hk> wrote:
> > Hello!
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> > I cannot open a particular file in LibreOffice, but I can open it in
> > Microsoft Office.
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> Good for you; your copy of m$ is legal?
> > I would appreciate it if you take a look.
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> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60390
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> Not a bug, unless the original document was created in odf. Did you
> contact the author and explain that the document cannot be opened in
> LO? What did the author say?
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