Maybe you should give the URL for the Linux-based boot repair disk [.iso
file download]. I do not remember it it.
I have two different disk type/names.
"boot-repair-disk.iso" - 355 MB
"ubuntu-secure-remix-12.10-32-bit.iso" - 787 MB
"ubuntu-secure-remix-12.10-64-bit.iso" - 797.1 MB
I think I used the "boot-repair-disk" version since all you had to do
was choose your OS version/type you are using. I think I remember
correctly that there was only 4 buttons to choose from once the disk/OS
My Dell laptop had 32-bit Vista even though 64-bit Vista was out and
working. Too cheap maybe to include it, since it cost us more for the
64-bit version back then. I just upgraded that dual boot laptop 64-bit
Win7 professional from 32-bit Vista and 64-bit Ubuntu 12.10 from 12.04
version. Win7/pro killed the dual booting till I ran the "repair
disk". I tend to use the Ubuntu boot for the testing of the newest
version of Ubuntu [10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04 to 11.10 to 12.04 to 12.10]
before I upgrade it on my "production desktop". I upgraded the Vista to
Win7/pro [64-bit] so I can have a working 64-bit Windows OS on one of my
systems without going to Win8, since I do not have any touch screens
except on my Android 4.0 tablet.
Actually, I wonder if Win7 or Win8 would break the dual [or triple]
booting a laptop if both boot partitions were running a Windows OS
before one was upgraded from XP or Vista to Win7 or Win8? Would Windows
break the multi-boot if there would be two+ Windows OSs on the same
system but in different boot partitions?
Windows 2000 was for business based on Win NT, while Win Millennium was
for the home user based on Win98. Millennium was worse than Vista ever
was and most users I dealt with switched to Win 2000 till XP [home or
professional] came out.
Win8 look and feel is a reworking of their failed smart phone OS. They
decided that they still liked it and moved it to the Win8 tablet OS.
BUT, someone had the bad idea of wanting all of "your" Windows based
systems to look and "feel" the same. I do not want my "production
desktop" to have the "look and feel" of my tablet. I hated Unity's look
and feel when it came out in the Spring of 2011. Win8 seemed to look
and feel the same. I read that a large number of Ubuntu user switched
to Mint Linux because of Unity. If MS would have looked at the
"fallout" when Ubuntu went to Unity, maybe they would have thought twice
about using a tablet looking OS desktop display for their desktop/laptop
OSs. I kept Ubuntu, but switched to MATE for the desktop environment.
For my opinion what business users in my area will do with new Win8
systems; not buy them if they can get new Win7 systems or downgrade the
new Win8 systems to Win7. Every business user I have talked to locally
hates the look of Win8 and do not want to have to pay for the training
to get their users to be able to use it. XP/Vista to Win7 was a little
change, but XP/Vista/Win7 to Win8 was a real big change that needs a lot
of training. TV ads for retail computer stores use to offer free Win8
training so people could learn how to deal with the big changes. Well,
those TV ads are all gone, along with most of the Win8 ads [number of
ads per day/week] are gone now. Almost all of the MS's tablet are gone
now, but there are some major computer companies [like HP] ads about
tablet to laptop convertibles though replacing MS's "tablet with a
On 01/21/2013 04:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
There is always 'unexpectedly low' take-up of Windows newest OS when
it first gets released. Historically corporate users have learned to
leave it until after at least the first Service Pack gets released.
One time MS tried to boost sales by claiming that Service Pack 1 was
included in the initial release.
Usually there is a requirement to upgrade quite a bit of hardware in
order to run the newer version of Windows and that creates reluctance
until people have had time to save-up or plan for rolling out new
hardware for the new OS.
Installing Windows always installs their boot-loader (used to be
"ntldr") which overwrites the MBR of the hard-drive and then ignores
any other OSes on the machine so that you can only boot into Windows.
To reinstate your MBR just boot into a LIveCd or LiveUsb or some other
way of booting into a Gnu&Linux and just repair or reinstall just the
boot-loader of your distro. You don't need a special recovery or
repair disk although those sorts of things are just one way to boot
into a Gnu&Linux. You also don't need to reinstall the entire distro.
It's just a case of repairing your boot-loader. One of the final
steps of the repair involves 'updating' your boot-loader and if that
is one on a unix-based platform (such as Gnu&Linux, Bsd or whatever)
then it picks up the new version of Windows that your just installed.
Fixing the Mbr is really easy once you have done it once.
Typically Windows seem to have 1 bad version followed by 1 good one
and then the next is bad. Vista was apparently so bad that many
people said they "upgraded" from Vista back to Xp. Even though that
was a backwards step many considered it an upgrade. Win7 was quite
good. Before Xp was Millenium which was generally considered so
appalling that people are more likely to have heard of Win98. So,
people might be expecting Win8 to be another dead OS.
However there is also often quite strong resistance to new things.
Especially to new versions of Windows. people have just about become
familiar with the older one and don't like the newer ways of doing
things and the fact that it's difficult to find things or work out how
to deal with issues that they had just learned how to solve on the
previous. With Gnu&Linux it doesn't matter what changes happen to the
DE you can always modify it or even just install the old one on your
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*Sent:* Monday, 21 January 2013, 16:34
*Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] is MSFT running scared ...
On 01/21/2013 10:41 AM, anne-ology wrote:
> ... maybe not, but this makes me wonder why they were
> new OS and now are plugging a how-to re. it ;-)
> As for me, I'm very thankful there's LO, and with such a
> help-list of fellow users :-)
The articles I have read seem to tell Win7 users to forget to
upgrade to Win8 if you do not have a touch screen.
MS's tablet has had low sales figures, much lower than expected or
the hype would let you believe.
So, giving tech people a free e-book about Win8 is a way for them
to promote that OS.
I have heard from a few business users where they took their Win8
upgrade and "degrade" it back to XP or Win7. So maybe MS needs to
convince the business users to buy the Win8 upgrade or even new
Win8 systems, instead of upgrading to, and/or buying, systems
I just upgraded 32-bit Vista to 64-bit Win7/pro instead of the
cheaper priced Win8 deal. I have it on a laptop that is a dual
boot for 64-bit Win7/pro and 64-bit Ubuntu 12.10 [with MATE
desktop environment]. That upgrade "killed" the dual booting so I
need to use the repair disk. The way I have read seems to be that
Win8 would do something with that laptop where it would not be
able to dual even after the boot fixing disk. I use the laptop for
my main Windows laptop and the Ubuntu boot is where I test out the
new version[s] of the OS before I install it onto my main
"production" desktop. I hate the Unity desktop for Ubuntu, so why
would I buy Win8 with the same type of desktop "tile" look and feel.
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