Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibility?

       Here's a listing of alternative java programs -

http://www.techsupportalert.com/search/google/java?query=java&cx=partner-pub-4337260311855789%3A5365410881&cof=FORID%3A10&sitesearch=&safe=high

          along with discussion from various users.



On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:24 AM, V Stuart Foote <VStuart.Foote@utsa.edu>wrote:

Tom,
> Probably, I'm pretty certain this issue has actually been with us since
> the Java JRE 1.6 -> JRE 1.7 crossover. It impacts usability with AT because
> large segments of the GUI are no longer functional with screen and brail
> readers under JRE 1.7's Java Accessibility API even though the JAB is
> appears to be delivering identical roles and obejcts.
>
> For now, rolling back to a JRE 1.6 and its more functional JAAPI may be
> the best suggestion for LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice users in need of
> AT.  The Java dependency may eventually be dropped, depending on where
> things go with BASE and HSQLDB and implementing a non-Java accessibility
> bridge based AT for Windows, i.e.an IAccessible2 implementation or
> possibly an AT-SPI2 port.
>
> Question beside the workaround of using a JRE 1.6, is if there is much
> developer and TDF Board desire to repair AT and possibly BASE for use with
> JRE 1.7 and a more current HSQLDB build.
>
> Stuart
>
>
> From: Tom Davies [tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:45 AM
> To: Users@Global.LibreOffice.Org
> Cc: V Stuart Foote
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibility?
>
> Hi :)
> Should the devs be made aware of problems with the newer release of Java
> (again)?
>
> Each new release of Java creates more problems and each is soon found to
> have more security issues so another new one needs to be released quickly.
>  It's a 3rd party product that is difficult to track.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> From: V Stuart Foote <VStuart.Foote@utsa.edu>
> To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Saturday, 29 December 2012, 16:13
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibility?
>
> Simon,
>
> There appears to be a change in the JRE 1.7 and JAB 2.0.3 that is reducing
> the fidelity of the Java Accessibility API rendering of both LibreOffice
> and
> OpenOffice.  This is affecting both NVDA and Jaws screen readers.
>
> I've been unable to find any Oracle documentation on API changes from the
> 2.02 to 2.03  JAB or JAAPI, but something is definitely changed.  Reviewing
> the JAB delivered document structure with JavaMonkey shows the 2.02
> rendering to be identical with the 2.0.3 rendering--but with JRE 1.7 its
> JAAPI appears to process the result differently and does not fully render
> the results in either screen reader.
>
> Are you able to roll back to JRE 1.6 and a JAB 2.0.2 installation  and
> retest the issues you've had with LibreOffice 3.6.4? And otherwise asses AT
> usability with the earlier Java runtimes?
>
> Downloads needed to roll back are here:
>
> JRE 1.6u38
> <
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6u38-downloads-1877409.html
> >
> JWin.exe installer for JAB 2.0.2 <
> http://empowermentzone.com/JWin_setup.exe>
>
>
> Stuart

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