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I think LO is easier to use than MSO2003. That was before the "Ribbon" UI was created. What I hated about MSO-2003-Word, was how long it took to be to the point where I could do anything. Then there were all these side-bar options that I could not get to stop showing up and slowing down my use of Word. LO, even at its slowest opening versions was faster to get to the point of typing/editing my document.

Yes, the UI is different than MSO and we need to see about some graphic/chart showing new users where the options are in the menu-bar. I know some packages show that type of thing in a printed sheet for new users. I had one for MSO.

A company called BarCharts, Inc. does a very good job creating quick study guides. I have some of their Math and Science laminated "QUICK STUDY Academic" sheets. I find that they were great for helping me with the formulas needs when I was substituting as a Math teacher. I have not bought any since the late 90's, but the company seems to have 5 or 10 times the number of titles since I bought the sheets from them.

Word 2010 sheet -

This company has MSO guides, but no LibreOffice ones. It would be interesting if we could get such a quick reference guide sheet created for LibreOffice. The basics should not change over the various versions. The basic UI and menu option placements should not change [much] between lines either.

On 11/14/2012 10:18 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
They often seem to think it's going to take them just as long to learn LO as it took them to learn 
MSO.  Of course it takes a lot less time because most of the ideas are the same or similar.

I'm currently struggling with a lady that seems determined to use the space-bar instead of; tabs, 
indents, centre, right-aligned, columns, tables.  Most people have taken years to learn those sorts 
of things and seem to think they are going to have to re-learn all of that.

Today she protested that LO wasn't as easy as i had made out but my boss (an MS fanboy) stepped in 
and somehow told her nicely a better way = to do the typing first and then apply formatting 
afterwards!  Fantastic!! :)

Regards from
Tom :)

From: Dr. R. O Stapf <>
To: Tom Davies <>
Cc: "" <>
Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 14:05
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart

Paying special attention to the Styles Chapters is definitely important; maybe the most important 
chapters to look at.

A guidance for LibO beginners could help to move people from MSO to
     LibO. I observe that many people are sticking with MSO because with
     huge efforts they learned to use MSO (most often just very basics)
     and don't want to take an effort to learn something new without a
     good guidance.

On 2012-11-14 20:38, Tom Davies wrote:

I think just working through the "Getting Started" guide helps
         hugely.  Pay special attention to the Styles chapter.

I had to help someone tidy up a Word document yday and it was a
         total Pita.  Fortunately they are very unfamiliar with
         MS-anything so;
1.  They didn't do so many of the weirdnesses that people learn
         to use to really stuff-up their documents and make them
         unreadable to everyone that isn't using their system
2.  There is some hope of pushing them straight into using LO
Regards from
Tom :)

From: Dr. R. O Stapf <>
Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 8:00
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart

When I wrote my comment I was not thinking about the
                 change of a font, but getting something which
helps to understand how Writer work and a support to
                 "unlearn" Word. I am currently struggling with
unlearning Word and Power Point.

On 2012-11-13 22:56, VA wrote:
Yes, MS completely redesigned the user interface
                 with Word 2007, so any
chart made for Word 2003 could be very different
                 for one made for Word 2007.
I'm not sure how effective a chart would be, for
                 LibO and Word, in many
ways, just think differently. LibO uses not only
                 paragraph styles but also
page styles, which is a completely foreign concept
                 to MS. So, it's not just
about hitting a sequence of mouse clicks in the
                 right order; it's about
relearning how to create, edit, and format
                 documents. There are typically
several ways to accomplish a task, and the LibO
                 method that is most like
Word may not be the best way to get things done. To
                 get the most out of
LibO, you might find yourself having to
                 deliberately unlearn Word. To be
sure, you can find things in the Writer menu that
                 are similar to the Word
menu, but the power of an office suite comes in
                 learning how the program
thinks, which is working at a deeper level than
                 simply selecting a font from
a drop-down box, etc.


ps. Can someone "fix" the annoying feature of this
                 list that you must hit "reply all" to send a
reply to the list? I'm constantly sending out
                 duplicates of my messages because my first one only
went to one person. No other list I belong to has
                 that behavior. My apologies to Dr. Stapf for the

-----Original Message----- From: Dr. R. O Stapf
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:22 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre
                 Writer - Comparison Chart
I know that the creation of such a tool would take
                 very important dev resources, but it would be a
good tool to promote LIbO Writer.

But why to compare with Word 2003? As far as I know
                 a big change has taken place with Word 2007 (or

On 2012-11-13 02:27, charles meyer wrote:
Hi Folks,

MS Word has a comparison chart which shows you
                 how to perform certain
tasks in Word compared to how you effect them
                 in WordPerfect.
It's an easy chart to check (and learn) Word if
                 you've been a WordPerfect user.
Ex. Ctrl/F8 will perform a certain task in
                 WordPerfect but that same
task is done with different function key
                 combinations in Word
I was wondering if anyone has come across a
                 similar comparison chart
for Libre Writer and Word, especially Word
The chart would show how a task is done in Word
                 and then next to it
would reveal how that task is done in Libre
Thanks so much,


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