Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart

Hi :)
+1
They often seem to think it's going to take them just as long to learn LO as it took them to learn 
MSO.  Of course it takes a lot less time because most of the ideas are the same or similar.  

I'm currently struggling with a lady that seems determined to use the space-bar instead of; tabs, 
indents, centre, right-aligned, columns, tables.  Most people have taken years to learn those sorts 
of things and seem to think they are going to have to re-learn all of that.  

Today she protested that LO wasn't as easy as i had made out but my boss (an MS fanboy) stepped in 
and somehow told her nicely a better way = to do the typing first and then apply formatting 
afterwards!  Fantastic!! :)  

Regards from
Tom :)  





> ________________________________
> From: Dr. R. O Stapf <reinhold@stapf-online.com>
> To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> 
> Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 14:05
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
>
>
> Paying special attention to the Styles Chapters is definitely important; maybe the most important 
> chapters to look at. 
>
> A guidance for LibO beginners could help to move people from MSO to
    LibO. I observe that many people are sticking with MSO because with
    huge efforts they learned to use MSO (most often just very basics)
    and don't want to take an effort to learn something new without a
    good guidance.
> On 2012-11-14 20:38, Tom Davies wrote:
>
> Hi:)
> > I think just working through the "Getting Started" guide helps
        hugely.  Pay special attention to the Styles chapter.  
> > wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
> >
> > I had to help someone tidy up a Word document yday and it was a
        total Pita.  Fortunately they are very unfamiliar with
        MS-anything so; 
> > 1.  They didn't do so many of the weirdnesses that people learn
        to use to really stuff-up their documents and make them
        unreadable to everyone that isn't using their system
> > 2.  There is some hope of pushing them straight into using LO
> > Regards from 
> > Tom :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Dr. R. O Stapf <reinhold@stapf-online.com>
> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 8:00
> > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
> > >
> > > When I wrote my comment I was not thinking about the
                change of a font, but getting something which 
> > > helps to understand how Writer work and a support to
                "unlearn" Word. I am currently struggling with 
> > > unlearning Word and Power Point.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2012-11-13 22:56, VA wrote:
> > > > Yes, MS completely redesigned the user interface
                with Word 2007, so any
> > > > chart made for Word 2003 could be very different
                for one made for Word 2007.
> > > > I'm not sure how effective a chart would be, for
                LibO and Word, in many
> > > > ways, just think differently. LibO uses not only
                paragraph styles but also
> > > > page styles, which is a completely foreign concept
                to MS. So, it's not just
> > > > about hitting a sequence of mouse clicks in the
                right order; it's about
> > > > relearning how to create, edit, and format
                documents. There are typically
> > > > several ways to accomplish a task, and the LibO
                method that is most like
> > > > Word may not be the best way to get things done. To
                get the most out of
> > > > LibO, you might find yourself having to
                deliberately unlearn Word. To be
> > > > sure, you can find things in the Writer menu that
                are similar to the Word
> > > > menu, but the power of an office suite comes in
                learning how the program
> > > > thinks, which is working at a deeper level than
                simply selecting a font from
> > > > a drop-down box, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Virgil
> > > >
> > > > ps. Can someone "fix" the annoying feature of this
                list that you must hit "reply all" to send a 
> > > > reply to the list? I'm constantly sending out
                duplicates of my messages because my first one only 
> > > > went to one person. No other list I belong to has
                that behavior. My apologies to Dr. Stapf for the 
> > > > rerun.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message----- From: Dr. R. O Stapf
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:22 AM
> > > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre
                Writer - Comparison Chart
> > > > I know that the creation of such a tool would take
                very important dev resources, but it would be a
> > > > good tool to promote LIbO Writer.
> > > >
> > > > But why to compare with Word 2003? As far as I know
                a big change has taken place with Word 2007 (or
> > > > 2010?)/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2012-11-13 02:27, charles meyer wrote:
> > > > > Hi Folks,
> > > > >
> > > > > MS Word has a comparison chart which shows you
                how to perform certain
> > > > > tasks in Word compared to how you effect them
                in WordPerfect.
> > > > > It's an easy chart to check (and learn) Word if
                you've been a WordPerfect user.
> > > > > Ex. Ctrl/F8 will perform a certain task in
                WordPerfect but that same
> > > > > task is done with different function key
                combinations in Word
> > > > > I was wondering if anyone has come across a
                similar comparison chart
> > > > > for Libre Writer and Word, especially Word
                2003?
> > > > > The chart would show how a task is done in Word
                and then next to it
> > > > > would reveal how that task is done in Libre
                Writer.
> > > > > Thanks so much,
> > > > >
> > > > > Charles.
> > >
> > >
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