Re: [libreoffice-users] documentation for LO base

I am going to stick my head above the parapet and say it should have an
embedded database functionality that is secure and reliable. That is an
essential requirement for entry-level users that have only ever used Access.

On 5 October 2012 13:34, Pertti Rönnberg <ptjr@elisanet.fi> wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> I agree with Mark.
>
> The question itself is interesting but an answer does not explain anything
> relevant.
>
> Let us turn the question around:how many people should use LO-Base if
> there was a LibO-version available that is ready to use, reliable, and free
> of problems (bugs).
>
> If
>
>  its installing instructions should be complete, consequent, and placed
> > >
> > in one easy to find place
>
>  the program's every single detail should work  -- functions, features,
> > >
> > processes at a level (e.g.) similar to MSAccess (2003) --the ability to
> build decent reports included (and the embedded db-engine and its guides
> up-dated and supported)
>
>  the guiding documentation (& help) should be logic, understandable and
> > >
> > in every detail correlating with the program
>
> With the exception of heavy industrial systems the need and possibilities
> of up to medium complex databases in everyday life at home are unlimited --
> only limited by the decision to start creating.
>
> There are really nothing difficult in creating such "home databases"-- no
> need to be an "Einstein", if only good guidings are available. Creating
> database applications is also a very interesting form of brain training --
> and the feeling when succeeding is a "yippee". If you know how to use
> Writer/Word and Calc/Excel (esp. as "databases") you are almost half way.
> What you still has to do is to study and learn some few basic theories
> about and how to create the tables and the queries(experiment manually, not
> with wizards, if you want to learn and understand);creating the forms and
> the reports is just a matter of following instructions.
>
> If you want LibO to be a popular competitor to MSO (& MSAccess), then the
> rest is only a question of marketing.
>
>
> As far as I have experienced LibO-Base (v. 3.4.5), there are only a few
> details left to fixed before LibO should be almost perfect.
>
> About contributing
>
> A basic rule in quality systems (ISO9000) is that if you want improvement
> you must first identify the problems (faults, weaknesses) -- and then
> follow up by a plan and an improving activity.
>
> LibO might be a very fine and usable suit -- especially if also its Base
> module (docs included) should work properly, at least as promised in
> introductions.
>
> Mr Dan Lewis is doing a good and valuable work when updating and
> completing the Base's documentation and it is obvious that without any help
> his project will take a long time.
>
> Last winter I started to read and follow up experimenting Dan's docs with
> the intension to send my comments as points of views. And hadquite a lot
> already done.
>
> At this list I several times also mentioned some quite basic
> problems/faults both in Base's docs and especially in the modules's
> features.
>
> I never got any kind of response, I don' t know if my proposals were
> noticed, nor do I know if the mentioned things have been fixed.
>
> So I skipped working any further on experimenting LibO-Base and its docs.
> (I am now back to OO and tries to learn MySQL)
>
> You may take this as some sort of a contribution too.
>
> Best regards
>
> Pertti Rönnberg
>
>
>
> On 4.10.2012 18:04, Mark Stanton wrote:
>
> > Question:  How many people do you know use Base, or have tried to use
> > > Base?
> > Whilst there is some quite valid criticism of Base, I don't think
> > answering
> > this question says as much about Base as it does about the general usage
> > of databases.  They are less familiar than word processors, spreadsheets
> > or
> > drawing packages.
> >
> > Mark
>
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