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On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:09 PM, anne-ology <> wrote:

       ... merely receive this  :-(

       I don't believe I deserve to be ignored ... nor to be abused -
           therefore I think this list should be made aware of this
person's behaviour -
       because if he's treating me in this manner, I'm sure others have
received and/or will be receiving this same treatment?

       BTW - just what is a ping???

Again not appropriate and you'll find a hard time getting involved with ANY
open source project if you make clearly private messages public. I
apologize that you are struggling so much with getting a wiki account BUT
there are "generally accepted ways" of going about communicating and one of
those is not making private conversations public. Since you went ahead and
did so I'll keep it public so that you aren't spamming users with my
personal replies.

A ping is just a quick email (or IRC message, etc...) that says "hey, any
updates", some users even just say "ping" in IRC basically saying "hey, you

I hope you find the assistance you need from another user and or volunteer.


On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Joel Madero <> wrote:

I'm sorry but this is completely inappropriate. An email directly to me
would have been much better. I've tried to figure out what the problem is
and as I have mentioned, I work full time and am getting ready for law
school, I also do about 10 other things for LibO so my time is
stretched. I
honestly have no idea what the problem is, every other volunteer has had
problem following the instructions. You specifically told you I couldn't
figure out what you were facing, a screenshot, or something, would have
been a helpful thing to give me. Furthermore, you could have sent me a
to ask if there was an update.

A few of the things in the email that particulary were not written well.
"This Joel", you didn't say that I EXPLAINED that I am incredibly busy,
that I emailed the list as a joke or a ruse also isn't okay.


On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 1:43 PM, anne-ology <> wrote:

       Back when I received this response [2nd below], I attempted to
follow these steps -
           but found that #1 is impossible; there is no 'math' problem
which is to be answered in order to log-in  [WHERE is this to be found?]
       Therefore, the log-in merely goes round and round, stating this
error, yet never explaining HOW to correct this error  ;-(

       After trying - and with the same results - half a dozen times, I
wrote this Joel back - [1st below]
           a few days later, he finally responded but ONLY to having
received my e-mail, rather than responding to HOW to log-in.

       When I initially offered to help, I did so in good faith, yet now
I'm thinking that either that initial letter and/or his response was
           I'm asking this list for their thoughts and possibly an
explanation to this;
              I happened to notice that some from this list, were listed
on that log-in page  ;-)

From: anne-ology <>
Date: Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: Triaging
To: Joel Madero <>

       I've been attempting to sign in -
          clicking on the URL in #1 below only to uncover various
              the latest and most consistent is probably due to not
answering some math question -
                 I've clicked on each link on this page yet have not
located the problem nor the blank to fill in???

       I don't understand.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Joel Madero <

Hi! First thanks for responding to our call for volunteers, we really
appreciate the help :)

I was hoping that you could start by doing two things:

1. Go here,
and add your name and what not to the list so that we can easily see
who is

2. Go here,
pick a sheet, and start triaging as much as possible. Right now our
project in QA is getting FDO under control, starting with the backlog
about 850 bugs that are older than 30 days and haven't been touched.

I update that sheet somewhat regularly so at times you'll see your
gone and you'll have to reassign yourself another one. I'll hopefully
doing that this afternoon at some point but feel free to start
whenever you
have the time. If you have any questions don't hesitate to email me or
me on gchat/skype/etc...

Thanks again,

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