Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Pivottable/Chart Compatibility in Calc 3.6 with Excel 2002

On 09/08/12 18:46, Andreas Säger wrote:
> Am 08.08.2012 01:01, Steve Morris wrote:
> > Hi,
> >      I am trying to reproduce spreadsheets created at work in Excel 2002
> > in Libreoffice 3.6 under Linux and can't do it because pivottables and
> > charts are not functionally compatible.
> >      When I create the pivottable and drag the fields to the layout I
> > have the following issues:
> >          At field add time I cannot rename the field nor can I specify
> > the format of the field if I want a different format to the source
> > (Excel allows both at drag time).
>
> 1) Pivot functions, calculated pivot fields and pivot charts are not 
> implemented as they used to be implemented in Excel 8 (1997).
So basically your saying that if we have pivottables in excel 2002 that 
use calculated fields we cannot replicate that in Calc, hence Calc could 
never be a replacement for excel?
> 2) You can not edit the pivot labels.
Calc allows pivot labels to be edited in all areas of the pivot table 
except the page area. In my view the method for doing this renaming is 
extremely archaic.
> 3) All pivot cell formats are bound to auto-generated cell styles 
> except for the number formats which are taken from the source data.
So basically if we want individual numeric fields to display with 
different formats to each other, and in a format that is different to 
the raw data, we have to define special styles for each format? Also, 
correct me if I'm wrong, I thought styles were tied to cells, which 
would mean we would have to highlight all the cells in the pivot table 
and select the style, which would then mean that next time the raw data 
is refreshed, if that causes more rows to be added to the pivot table 
the formatted will be wrong on the new rows. This seems to also mean 
that if the layout is changed and additional fields inserted or existing 
fields change position, the formatting has to be reapplied because 
because it is tied to the cells rather than the pivot field.
In addition to this, these sorts of changes are not necessarily 
available if the spreadsheet is set up to refresh the raw data and pivot 
tables automatically at spreadsheet open time, or does Calc not support 
this either.
> You've got to use MS Excel or find your own work-arounds. For 
> calculated fields I use to use pivots from databases or database 
> queries instead of pivots.
Using databases is not necessarily an option when producing the raw data 
from an application that does not have access to databases and is 
outputting the data for the spreadsheet as xml.

As a side issue to this (I haven't investigated this functionality yet) 
does Calc support pivot charts?

regards,
Steve

>


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