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       The connection we use in the northern hemisphere is different from
that in the southern hemisphere;
            using satellites up here came after the cables were installed.
                [laid by U.S.-Britain ca. '40s]

       -> when Steve Jobs had the idea of connecting the world's
communication, he used the existing cables, etc. ...
            why there cannot be a satellite for the southern hemisphere
which speaks with the northern one  [??? - is the $64,000 question  ;-) ]

       BUT those in the southern hemisphere should be better off than us up
here if either (1) these hackers are able to somehow knock out the
satellite and/or if (2) some asteroid [or whatever] knocks it out.

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Tom Davies <> wrote:

Hi :)
Weird.  I assumed it was all done by satellites and that was why the
connection to the outside world had such limited bandwidth and was so slow.

I remember a few years ago a ship in the Mediterranean accidentally ripped
up THE single cable connecting Asia to the rest of the world!  or least the
middle-east(ish) part of Asia.  Tons of people were having serious problems
with speed chess (less than 5min for an entire game).

Regards from
Tom :)

From: Anthony Easthope <>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] now can Purchase a NA-DVD
Date: Tuesday, 24 July, 2012, 10:38

I was doing some reading about New Zealand's connection to the world and
it turns out we down under tap into some underwater fiber cable and that
the Government for some reason hires it from the US government, anyway
somewhere in the agreement it mentions that NZ can't exceed a certain
limit otherwise it would cook the service or something like that, anyway
I am writing this in a hurry as some one else wants the Mac so ill see
if i can post the link at a later date!

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012, at 02:06 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi again (sorry for the double-posting)  :)

The issue about New Zealand's connection to the rest of the world cropped
up years ago in Ubuntu.  I think either Universities there or the
authorities or someone ran a big hosting site to mirror "the essentials"
and somehow Ubuntu managed to get mirrored on that.  Server-to-server
'up'-loading (or is it downloading or cross-loading?) should be far
faster than going through a domestic route!

I think the Ubuntu crowd discussed posting physical media to get the bulk
done more easily.
Regards from
Tom :)

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] now can Purchase a NA-DVD
Date: Saturday, 21 July, 2012, 23:18

DO you have a broadband Internet connection?  The .iso file is listed
If you do not have broadband connection, there should be a way for you to
get a copy from some source.  I have shipped one to Malta from the USA,
but do not like to spend my own money on shipping, most of the time.


Here is a link to the Online version of the DVD. [actually to the Install

Browse this site and you will find all of the files and such on the DVD.
The online site tends to get updated more often than the physical media
or the .iso file does, but still it will give you a look at the DVD.

Right now, the only real updates to the online version [same as the
physical one really] is the fact that there are 2 more chapters in Draw
online than the one that can be bought or the .iso file to be downloaded.

Mostly there are the documentation, the 180+ dictionaries, the
extensions, templates, artwork, the extra free packages, etc., etc..  I
did not fee that a DVD should contain only the basic install files for
LibreOffice.  That would be a waste of a DVD. So it got filled with a lot
of things that I [and others] thought a user might want to have with
him/her on a DVD so that they did not have to go looking for it
elsewhere.  I must have 99% of the dictionaries that can work with
LibreOffice, unless you get them via any language packages, like you need
for a Linux install.

On 07/21/2012 05:44 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote:
I am curious as to what the 2gb of extras contain! I am considering
purchasing a dvd but not sure if it is able to be shipped to New
if it could that would be great!

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 04:07 AM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
On 07/20/2012 10:08 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
Thanks to Drew, we now have a service that will "print-on-demand" a
copy of the LibreOffice North American Community DVD - version 3.5.5.

Here is a link for a direct retail page:
**Kunaki handles all the payment collection.**


Well done, Drew! I had been researching manufacturers, this is the
used by Raphael Hertzog to distribute his Debian remix:

I had that in my personal ToDo for a while
(, glad
you're validating it. If/when you have a sample of what they ship,
be important to have pictures. I'll order one to carry it and use as a
demo. I plan to finish my local design and use the same ship by


Fabian Rodriguez

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