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Hmm, disappointing though. I cannot see how these kinds of things can be
avoided if you are editing a manuscript, and I never had such problems in
the past with OO in 2002, with a book that certainly went through just as
many revisions.

I am clueless anymore how to fix it. If I fix one, another one pops up...

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Fernand Vanrie <> wrote:

Rogier ,

Its not worth a issue, its user related due to serial direct formating,
spaces folowd by spaces etc..When checking the underlying XML you can sea
lots of unused tags and sometimes the PDF-creator is confused :-)

The solution and the probable cause...

In the end, this problem was fixable, by using 'clear direct formatting'
the areas affected. (Could not do whole doc lest we wipe out italics and

The amazing fact was that the problem did not manifest in a PDF at the
subdocument level, it just showed up in PDF output from the masterdoc.
likely it was some kind of imperfection with the process of switching
somewhere in mid project. Unclear if it is substantial enough to rise to
the level of a reportable issue. It probably is, but I would not know how
to duplicate it.

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:37 AM, Fernand Vanrie <> wrote:

 Rogier ,

We produce about 8000 full color magazine pages a year using OO-LO on
Windows, without any PDF anomalies

- are you using Windows ?

- what Fonts ?

you can also send some problematic pages to my personal emailadress



 Back in 2002 I produced a book, going straight to print off a Open
PDF, and the results were thoroughly satisfactory. In fact, my book at
time was probably the first production book that was fully produced
straight from OO, skipping DTP altogether.

Today, 10 years later I'm doing a tentative layout for a book in Libre
Office, though this time without the intention of going to print from
PDF, but I'm finding out I could not do it if I wanted to for there are
some unpredictable anomalies happening in the PDF in LIbre Office. (I
not tried OO yet. Today I would probably use Scribus or Adobe Indesign
prepare a proper print layout.) What is happening is that there are
completely unpredictable irregularities in the LO PDF output for which I
cannot find any evident cause.

     - There is irregular line spacing happening in the PDF output for

     reasons that are entirely unclear in the original.
     - In some cases opening smart quotes seem to display at a point

     about 5 times the size of the text in the PDF (not in the actual
     files), which at least provides a visual clue for the irregular

Does anyone have similar experience, and has anyone perhaps found a
workaround, or is this an "issue."

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