Re: [libreoffice-users] Again, reports of LibO AutoSpellcheck not working after updates.

On 06/28/2012 06:33 AM, Spiff wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> ---
>
> Earlier, there were reports of problems with AutoSpellcheck not working
> after the update to LibO 3.5.0,
> relating Dutch language and also relating British English, and I guess other
> languages as well.
>
> See
> "LibO 3.5.0 Writer - AutoSpellcheck doesn't work for Dutch language"
> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibO-3-5-0-Writer-AutoSpellcheck-doesn-t-work-for-Dutch-language-td3745292.html
>
> I guessed that issue would've been fixed after that, but with later updates
> I noticed quite some reports of the same issue.
> There were reports of that same issue after the LibO 3.5.2 to 3.5.3 update,
> and with the LibO 3.5.3 to 3.5.4 update there were still reports of problems
> with Dutch AutoSpellcheck not working, and also one report for a problem
> with British English (English GB).
>
> A quick fix for AutoSpellcheck is the reinstallation of the concerning
> dictionary extension.
> But of course this doesn't take away the course of the problem, which is
> unknown.
> I thought my earlier post "LibO 3.5.0 Writer - AutoSpellcheck doesn't work
> for Dutch language" would've helped, but I guess it wasn't picked up by the
> folks that resolve such kind of issues.
>
> What is the best way to ensure that this problem will be picked up and can
> be resolved?
>
> ---
>
> Dictionaries to be installed for a quick fix for AutoSpellcheck can be found
> at
> http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/dictionary.html
> e.g., for Dutch that is the "Dutch spelling and hyphenation Dictionary".
> Alternatively, the Dutch dictionary can also be found at the source,
> OpenTaal,
> http://www.opentaal.org/bestanden
> choose "Woordenlijst v 2.10g voor OpenOffice",
> or the previous version 2.00g, via "Archief voor oude spellingbestanden",
> "Woordenlijst v 2.00g voor OpenOffice".
>
> @ krackedpress
> (administrator for that Dictionary Page of the North America LibreOffice
> Community, if I'm not mistaken)
> Have you noticed that there's a new "Dutch spelling and hyphenation
> Dictionary" file available from OpenTaal?
> While the previous version 2.00g is the file nl-dict-v2.00g.oxt
> the new version 2.10g is the file OpenTaal-210G-LO.oxt
> (I guess LO for LibreOffice?)

NO
I have not looked into that site for a Dutch dictionary.  I just looked 
and used Google's translation to read the page.  Now the online version 
of the DVD has that file.  I have not removed the older version yet, but 
that will be done later.

To be honest, I usually do not go into non-English sites to get 
dictionary updates.  Sometimes it is easier for me to wait till I hear 
about them in the lists or they are updated in the Extension Center.

I build my current list last year with all the .oxt files I could find.  
I look every so often to see if there are newer ones, but some do slip 
through.

> Also @ krackedpress,
> Would you happen to know what British English dictionary is the one that is
> installed with LibreOffice as the default English GB dictionary?
> Is that the 98k, 217k, 390k, or the 638k kpp British English dictionary?

None of my KPP dictionaries are part of the default installed English 
dictionary.  As far as I can tell, that dictionary is a combination of 
several English version into one dictionary set.  I could make a .oxt 
file that has the 638K lists of American, British, and Canadian, English 
included and then you would have all three active.  With the separate 
files you can enable/disable whichever dictionaries [any of them that is 
installed] whenever you wish.

As for mine, there has been some "heated" talk about the spelling of two 
"root" words in my set.  Been told they were wrong and been told they 
are correct for British English.  The "final word" is it is up to the 
user to decide on his/her own.

I offered the different sizes for those people who prefer smaller 
version over larger lists, but I use the 638K version which also 
includes a thesaurus and hyphenation control.  I now have a 773K version 
for American English.

I am thinking about dropping the smaller word lists and just working 
with the larger ones.  The 98K version is 5.2 MB in size while the 638K 
is 6.7 MB.  To be honest, the reasons I created the different list are 
no longer a concern for me and most people seem to go for the 638K 
version [or I am lead to believe].

> And also @ krackedpress,
> Here's another interesting issue:
> When downloading a dictionary extension ("Dutch spelling and hyphenation
> Dictionary", or one of the British English dictionaries)
> from http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/dictionary.html
> using Opera (11.64 or 12.00) or Opera Next (all recent builds), the download
> doesn't produce an .oxt-file, as it should, but a zip-file, that after
> unzipping doesn't show an .oxt-file, but instead a strange set of files
> without any .oxt-file.
> This was reported by a person using Opera/ Opera Next on Windows 7 Home
> Premium SP1.
> I can't tell if the problem is in Opera, or may be in the Dictionary Page.
> With Safari the .oxt-file download is as it should be,
> and also, on my own computer, using IE9, the download is fine as well.

.oxt files are really a compressed file.  I found that out by accident 
and that lead me to look into creating my own English dictionary[s].  
What the original compression type is, my software does not tell me.  I 
use the default ZIP compression format to build my .oxt files.  I could 
use a version of ".tar.gz" that is used for compressed Linux install 
files for LO, but I do not.

Why Opera changes the extension from .oxt to .zip, Dutch spell checker 
2.10G for LibreOffice/OpenOffice.orgot know but it seems to be an 
error.  IE and Firefox do not do that.  I do not use Opera so I never 
saw that problem.

> ---
>
> Documenting the AutoSpellcheck problem,
> here's one case of a user mentioning the AutoSpellcheck problems, related to
> the LibO 3.5.3 to 3.5.4 update.
> OS is Windows 7 Home Premium SP1.
>
> LibO AutoSpellcheck for Dutch language worked fine with LibO version 3.5.3.
> LibO AutoSpellcheck for Dutch language did no longer work after updating
> 3.5.3 to 3.5.4.
> The user tried to repair LibO by using the LibO installer, but that didn't
> work.
> He reversed to LibreOffice 3.5.3 (using a FarStone RestoreIT restore point),
> after which the LibO 3.5.3 AutoSpellcheck for Dutch language was working
> correctly.
>
> While back to 3.5.3, with AutoSpellcheck for Dutch language working
> correctly, and while experimenting with the "Dutch spelling and hyphenation
> Dictionary" download, that dictionary was unintentionally installed. This
> hadn't been necessary, but it did no harm either.

I tend to do a "Custom" install for Windows so that I choose only the 
language packs and dictionaries I NEED for my installations. The, if I 
want some other dictionary, I install the external .oxt file.  If I do 
not do a custom install, the Extension Manager gets cluttered.  Then you 
get the French, German, and Spanish users. They have several 
localized/revised version to choose from.  Spanish users have 20+ 
localized [by country] to choose from.  The default Spanish dictionary 
may not work for their needs.

> After that, LibO 3.5.3 was updated to 3.5.4 (using the same LibO main
> installer and Dutch helppack as with the earlier attempt) and now the
> AutoSpellcheck for Dutch language is working correctly, while after the
> earlier try it was not.
> It's hard to tell whether the AutoSpellcheck problem didn't occur because
> the dictionary was installed in 3.5.3 prior to updating to 3.5.4, or that
> this was not a relevant factor but that the installation results may not be
> stable, with occasional Dictionary extension failure.
>
> Now, with AutoSpellcheck for Dutch language working correctly, the user
> found out that AutoSpellcheck didn't work for British English.
> English GB was not offered for AutoSpellcheck and not checked under Tools,
> Options, Language Settings, Languages, Default languages for documents.
> So I guess this English GB dictionary extension had got missing also,
> somehow.
> It was the first time the user tried AutoSpellcheck for English GB, so
> there's no telling whether the problem arose from the update to 3.5.4 or
> whether it originated from an earlier update.
> Reinstallation of an English GB dictionary extension fixed the problem, for
> now.
> However, the cause of the problem is unknown, as it was with the other and
> earlier cases.
>
> ---
>
> Best regards,
>
> Spiff

There are known issues with LO default English spell checking 
dictionaries.  There is a fix, but I do not remember what it was. Some 
people fixes it by installing my American, British, or Canadian, 
dictionary.  Sometimes it works fine with the KPP dictionaries added, 
but then the issue pops up again and then goes away.

I do not know if it has been fixed completely with 3.5.4 [3.5.5 next 
week], but it seems to be something only a small percent of the English 
users seem to encounter.  I have not encountered it with Linux or my 
Windows laptops since 3.3.x days.




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