Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Is 3.5.4 ready for business users?

Hi :)
The 3.5.0 was blatantly not ready for business use and was not stable, as we saw from the number of 
problems people had on the lists, problems that were often solved by going back to 3.4.x.  It was 
absurd to claim that 3.5.0 or 3.5.1 or 3.5.2 were stable.  

The 3.5.3 seemed to generate less problems for people, or at least less that made it to the list 
but that could have been that people had given up on even trying any in the 3.5.x branch  and 
perhaps walked away from LO at all by that point.  

The question about 3.5.4 is one that you can only answer for yourself by testing it yourself.  We 
have learned to NOT trust it when TDF officials tell us that something is stable or 
enterprise-ready so the only opinion you can really count on is your own (unless you trust biased 
fanboys).  The 3.4.6 is plenty stable enough, has dealt with security issues that earlier releases 
theoretically had and and has enough functionality for most office needs.  So, i would recommend 
the 3.4.6 for business users but test-drive the 3.5.4 for myself.  

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 2/6/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P <webmaster@krackedpress.com> wrote:

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <webmaster@krackedpress.com>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Is 3.5.4 ready for business users?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 2 June, 2012, 22:29


I was told by one member of the list that was part of TDF, do not remember who since it was months 
ago, that business users would research the product or its line BEFORE they would install it.

For me, I look at the "annoying bug list" listed near the bottom of the release info page for info. 
 There are bugs for Writer and other parts of LO that are not something I can ignore, but there is 
no "easy to see" indicator that that bug has been fixed.  There is only red or black text.  The 
bugs that could be show stoppers for me could have been fixed now, since I first looking at bugs in 
3.5.x line.

So, I have been using 3.4.6 on Linux and Windows.
Now, I am looking at 3.5.4 in some test on a WinXP laptop.

The real big thing is how ready is this line to be used for business users.  During the 3.3.x and 
3.4.x line crossover, you keep getting told that this version is ready and that version is not.  
But now on the web site people were told to download and use 3.5.x since 3.5.0 came out.  I do not 
think anyone would offer their boss a copy of 3.5.0 to be used in their business.

I have given out many, many, DVDs with LO on it to local people, local businesses, and local 
government offices.  I want to give out a new DVD with 3.5.x on it but I have never been told that 
the current version of 3.5.x is ready for these businesses and such.

Would 3.5.4 be considered ready to give to a large local business or local government office?  Are 
there any "show stoppers" that are still there that needs to be fixed before you would give it to 
your boss in a business or other non-personal users?

That is the problem for me.  First we had a guide for a version being ready for business and 
enterprise users.  Now it is more like who cares or they will find out for themselves.

I do not know of any professional IT person who would offer a major package to their boss with the 
an attitude of "lets find out if it will work", instead of "these sources indicates it should work, 
so lets look into it more".



On 06/02/2012 04:40 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> I think it's important to test-drive a new branch on one non-production machine as soon as 
> possible so that they can post bug-reports about their favourite features if there is a problem.  
> Then a quick try of the various sub-point releases to check single issues would be smart.  There 
> is usually a noticeable drop off in the number of questions to the list once a branch reaches .4 
> but this last week or so there seems to have been a spike instead. However, most of those 
> questions have not been about the 3.5.4 (or have been tested on other releases too) so it's got 
> to be worth trying the 3.5.4.
> Regards from
> Tom :) 
>
> --- On Sat, 2/6/12, Andreas Säger<villeroy@t-online.de>  wrote:
>
> From: Andreas Säger<villeroy@t-online.de>
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Is 3.5.4 ready for business users?
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Saturday, 2 June, 2012, 16:37
>
> Am 02.06.2012 16:46, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
> > There seems to be differenting opinions on how business ready 3.5.3 was
> >
> > So now that LO 3.5.4 is out,
> >
> > I ask the users, is it ready to be deployed to my/our business users?
> >
> > We really need to know.
> >
> > The last "official" word on the 3.5.x line was that business users would
> > research the package before downloading and installing it.
> >
> > Well, I do not know how they will to all that research, or where they
> > will get the documentation for it, before downloading it.
> >
> > So I am asking LO users the question.
> > Is 3.5.4 ready for our business and/or enterprise users?
> >
> > The doc people are work hard to get more 3.5.x line documentation out,
> > but to be honest about it people can still use 3.3.x and 3.4.x docs till
> > 3.5.x comes out.
> What is the problem with 3.5? What are your conclusions when a user like
> me or Tom states that everything is fine with 3.5? I am a completely
> untypical user who skipped the whole 3.4 series after writing a bunch of
> bug reports. Tom has an entirely non-technical view on the project. The
> overall service quality of this particular user list is really bad.
>
> The bug tracker can tell all unresolved issues that do exist in 3.5 but
> not in 3.4? Don't ask me how. I file my bugs to the AOO tracker where it
> serves both projects.


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