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On 04/21/2012 07:18 AM, Regina Henschel wrote:
Hi Ben,

If you want a not-rectangle section, there exists a complicate way to use a combined drawing object, to hide the not needed parts. But I recommend to use an application specialized for bitmaps.

Kind regards

Bitmap images - think photos
use GIMP or other free and open source package. There are a lot out there.

Vector images -  think signs and graphic artwork creation
                           use Draw, or an Inkscape type of package

The people who decided what was needed, and not needed, for the TDF/LO office suite package did not want to "reinvent the wheel" if there was a good open source option available.

Some people asked about having an email client with OOo/AOO, and now LO, to replace MS Outlook. There are many good free or open source email clients out there, so the efforts of the developers did not feel we should go and try to make one as good or better. OOo had a good vector graphics drawing package, so LO continued to work with that to make better and better. But a vector graphics package does not do pixel related drawing and image editing. GIMP has been the "standard" for open source pixel-based image editing package, as far as I can tell. So why spend manpower to create a better one for this package.

An office suite needs to deal with a word processor, a spreadsheet package, a presentation package, a database package. Then there are the extras. Math will deal with the creation of formula "text" for the documents, and then Draw to add the basic graphics creation package for signs and other vector graphics needs of a business. The average office worker, or student, does not need to do photo and bitmap editing. If they do, they need some very specific, and maybe high end, needs that take a lot of manpower to develop and text to get it working right.

To be honest, one thing I hate about Microsoft's and Adobe's mindset is the fact that they want to have their packages do EVERYTHING they can think of. That is not a good way to make a good working, and non bloated package. The figures I have seen over the years is that 90% of the things that MS office can do is used by less that 3 to 5 percent of its users. I knew people that had been working with Word since Word 95 and they were the "expert" in that business for Word. I borrowed a Word reference and started to read off things that Word does and this expert never heard of these things and could not figure out why you would want to do something like that in a word processor package.

In the software industry, companies try to meet all your needs, but end up not doing a good job. LibreOffice is not like that. If you want an office suite package, LibreOffice does it well. If you want a photo and bitmap editing package, that should not be a part of an office suite, and LO did not include one. If you want an email and calendar client to replace Outlook [another bloated package] there are open source clients out there that has years of development that LO could never match with its limited manpower.

I do not think LO should go the route of MS and Adobe and make their software so bloated it takes 1 to 2 GB of drive space just to install it, and then not use most of what those companies thought we need, when 90% or more did not need it.

LO seems to have become the best office suite out there in the free and/or open source market. One day it will be a true 100% replacement to MSO for most business users. In my opinion, it fills the needs for at least 80% of business users. But it will not get there if it offered a bloated package that included photos editing, email and calendar clients, a web browser, and full HTML editing client. There are some good to great free and/or open source out there that covers all not non-office-suite package needs. TDF/LO took the office suite market away from Oracle/OOo when dropped the ball in that market. But TDF will not go and make the mistake of some other companies and try to create a package that includes everything a computer user might want to do on their machine. That is one of MSO's mistakes, so let them spend the money and manpower dealing with that mistake. Let TDF/LO deal with the needs of the "average office suite user". It makes a better product that way.

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