Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [BASE] New to Base - Program stops RESOLVED

Hi :)
Just uninstalling and reinstalling non-OpenSource programs usually wipes all your settings.  People 
get used to that and assume that uninstalling a program or installing over the top of an existing 
program does wipe your settings.  So programs can't be upgraded often and have to rely on minor 
updates instead.  Everytime you installed an upgrade, say MS Office 2010 after using MS Office 2007 
then all your favourite settings would have to be set-up all over again.  

This makes people resistant to change.  Even if their old version is heavily infected and 
vulnerable to all sorts of nastiness out there they still prefer to stick with it because it's 
probably taken years to tweak it to the way they like.  

By contrast OpenSource programs prefer to be able to "release often" and upgrade swiftly, partly to 
help prevent any hope of malware taking root.  So the settings are separated from the program so 
that a new install picks up the old settings (and possibly adds a few new ones if new features have 
also been added).  

It is difficult to understand at first because it seems contra-intuitive because we have all (well 
nearly all) been brought up believing that a new thing is completely fresh and has nothing 
lingering over from before.  

So, as far as the settings and configurations go uninstalling and reinstalling does nothing, no 
change at all!  On the other hand it is easy to get "back to factory defaults" simply by renaming 
the User Profile.  Then the program is suddenly blind and can't see any settigns so it generates a 
new set.  No need to uninstall anything.  

Revo-uninstaller seems to be brilliant at hunting down everything, in this case including the 
settings.  The result is that we don't know if the program was wonky or if it was the settings that 
had gone wrong somehow but at least we know the mystery problem was solved somehow.  

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 12/4/12, Betti Ann and Preston Smith <prbasmith@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Betti Ann and Preston Smith <prbasmith@gmail.com>
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: [BASE] New to Base - Program stops RESOLVED
To: "Libre Office" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
Date: Thursday, 12 April, 2012, 14:34

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [BASE] New to Base - Program stops
From: Preston Smith <prbasmith@gmail.com>
To: Libre Office <users@global.libreoffice.org>
Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:48:02 PM

> Hi,
>
> I am trying to learn Base in LO 3.5.2.2 under Vista with all latest updates
>
> I start Base - then I follow the steps shown at
> http://sheepdogguides.com/fdb/fdb1tableone.htm
>
> The Base wizard starts; I click 'Create a new database' then 'Next'
>
> I say "Yes, please register database for me", "Open for editing" and
> "Create tables using the table wizard"then click the "Finish" button.
>
> I get a "Save as" dialogue and select /Data Base Projects/FDB004 Phone
> Book/FDB004.odb
>
> And I get the Windows window that says
>
> "LibreOffice 3.5 has stopped working"
>
> I tried this process 3 times and each time I get the same message

Good morning,

Thank you everyone for your advice and comments.Your input was most helpful.

I did have the latest version of java installed so that was probably not the issue.

Since I had had a problem with the 'Most recent .." issue I decided to do a major reinstall since 
the problem was almost certainly profile related.  Since there was nothing magic in my profile, I 
had nothing to lose by deleting the whole LO program.  Using Revo Uninstall I did exactly that.  
Then I did a full search of my drives for anything LibreOffice related and removed those bits and 
pieces also.

I downloaded 5.2.2 again and installed and voila - all is well.

Thanks again for your help.  My brute force approach does not show much finesse but it worked for 
me. In the process I learned much from your input.

Preston





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