Re: [libreoffice-users] [BASE] New to Base - Program stops

Hi :)
Java 6_21 or 7_3 seem to be the best.  It's best to try the latest version first and if that 
doesn't work try the older one.  You can install java AFTER LibreOffice but then you might have to 
go to 
Tools - Options - Java 
to set which version of java LO starts using.  You can have multiple versions of java installed at 
the same time but it's best to remove them and get down to the fewest possible.   Idealy just the 
latest pre-release version (for your web-browsers and stuff) and whatever LO needs (hopefully the 
same latest version).

The problem with java is that it's cross-platform and easily compromised by a variety of types of 
malware.  Lately it has become so bad that the last 3 (7_0, 7_1 and 7_2) versions were allegedly 
facing active threats out in the wild even before they got released.  So, Oracle started working on 
newer versions.  The 6_29 is so bad that even Macs got compromised (according to ZDnet and twitter 
reports neither of which i never really believe much tbh).  

A few years ago Sun were able to include a copy of java with some vague confidence that
1.  machines wouldn't get infected so fast as they would these days
2.  Oracle wouldn't try to claw back some cash by taking Sun to court for whatever stupid excuse 
they could come up with.  
These days neither of those things can be relied on at all.  In effect nowadays bundling java might 
even be considered as bundling a trojan in with LO!

The LO devs are heroically writing out java dependence but some still remains.  I have to say that 
out of 12 machines i keep a fairly close eye on none of them seem to have had a problem with the 
6_29 but it's very possible i wouldn't notice until users grumble about obvious signs beyond just 
being slow.  

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 12/4/12, Pertti Rönnberg <ptjr@elisanet.fi> wrote:

From: Pertti Rönnberg <ptjr@elisanet.fi>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] [BASE] New to Base - Program stops
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 12 April, 2012, 11:21

Preston,
I experienced exactly the same when I in early January this year installed LibreO3.4.5 that at that 
moment was said to be the latest stable version.
Yesterday I upgraded to LO-3.4.6 because there, according to this mailing list, seem to be too much 
problems with LO-3.5.x versions.

Without knowing what-why and without any clear instructions from LibO documentation, I spent about 
a week on experimenting and finally managed to get LibO to work without the Base-module crashing 
the hole LibO.
My solution was in short:
1 >>    I uninstalled previous LibO-installation (also files from AppsData/Roaming, 
ProgramFiles/Users)
2 >>    downloaded and installed from Java's homepage a JRE-file named "Ixpiinstall.exe"
3 >>    finally I installed LibO  (note! install JRE before LibO)
Voilá - no crashes after that.

There are several versions of JRE and you have to consider whether your system is a 32-bit or 
64-bit Windows. I tried (almost?) all I could find and the above mentioned was the one that worked 
with my Win7/prof-32bit (I have OpenO3.2 on my Vista32bit-laptop)
There may today be other JRE versions better suited for your LibO (and my too) - I do not know. 
Perhaps the LibO experts can give you that advice.

Would it not be convenient for every new LibO-user if that basic info was said (or had a link to) 
clearly on LibO's main home page?
Yes, there is a 'intallation instruction' but I have not found any instructions about JRE:  needed 
or not needed, how and when to install and what version is recommended and where that version can 
be found - if needed. As a nice short step-by step instruction.

That to be compared with OpenO that rather clearly says that In OpenO the JRE is already included.
Best regards
Pertti Rönnberg



On 11.4.2012 22:48, Preston Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to learn Base in LO 3.5.2.2 under Vista with all latest updates
>
> I start Base - then I follow the steps shown at http://sheepdogguides.com/fdb/fdb1tableone.htm
>
> The Base wizard starts; I click 'Create a new database' then 'Next'
>
> I say "Yes, please register database for me",  "Open for editing" and "Create tables using the 
> table wizard"then click the "Finish" button.
>
> I get a "Save as" dialogue and select /Data Base Projects/FDB004 Phone Book/FDB004.odb
>
> And I get the Windows window that says
>
> "LibreOffice 3.5 has stopped working"
>
> I tried this process 3 times and each time I get the same message
>
> Help!!
>
> Thanks,
> Preston


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