Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Footnotes and Endnotes are hidden together with reference numbers!!!

On 02/20/2012 06:43 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
> On 20/02/2012 at 23:57, wernerjvienna <werner-j@gmx.at> wrote:
>
> > Some journal just demand to use [6-8] or  [10-12]  respectively in those
> > cases, what is not useful for a html document of course. So my post above
> > concerns only the problem of formatting foot- and end-notes and has nothing
> > to do with reference manager software.
> LibreOffice Writer is not capable of doing that. Either if you are using built-
> in bibliographic feature, which is lacking some of basic functionality, or if 
> you are using foot- or endnotes as references.
>
> As student of sociology, I mostly deal with social sciences and I am used to 
> authors who recklessly confuse footnotes, endnotes and bibliographic 
> references. But I would expect scientists from natural, physical and formal 
> sciences to be more strict.
>
> Footnote is a place to add some further information, or comments, from author. 
> They are not important enough to include in main text, but may be valuable for 
> some of readers. Or they are simply funny remarks, which some people think 
> should be avoided in scientific text. This is also place for comments from 
> translator or publisher (although comments from translator/publisher are 
> indicated in other way than comments from author). The point is, that reader 
> may skip reading footnotes without loosing any of author main ideas.
>
> Endnotes are footnotes put after the main part of the book or, less often, at 
> the end of a chapter, instead of bottom of the page. Some publishers prefer it 
> this way. If text in footnote is quite long (I have seen footnotes spanning 
> across two and more pages), perhaps it is better to use endnotes instead.
>
> References contains information about sources and further reading about some 
> topic. These may be either full bibliographic entry (which has many 
> disadvantages in texts longer than few pages) or unique identifiers which 
> expand full bibliographic entry in bibliography, near end of a book.
>
> These things should be distinguished. Yet, due to historical reasons and 
> habit, they are not. Many people place references in footnotes.
Part of the problem is that different editorial styles mandate
references be placed in footnotes rather than in a separate reference
(endnote) section at the end of the work. Thus the confusion between
references, footnotes, and endnotes. Strictly speaking there is a
difference between footnote/endnotes and references in terms of content
and purpose. References strictly have only bibliographic information.
> In that Wikipedia article footnotes contains almost only references. Only 
> footnote 14 contains what footnotes should contain -- commentary. Footnote 13 
> contains references to works expanding topic, so they may be treated as either 
> footnote, or reference (depending on writing style).
>
> I am still sure that you are using wrong function (although it may provide 
> something that *looks like* what you want to achieve). I still can't think of 
> a single reason why anyone would want to insert multiple footnotes (multiple 
> commentaries) at one place. Why don't just join them, if they refer to exactly 
> the same part of text?
>
> Although I still agree with you, that Writer is lacking some functionality in 
> that area and it could (and perhaps should!) be improved.


-- 
Jay Lozier
jslozier@gmail.com


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