Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

drew wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 07:10 -0800, Pedro wrote:
> > drewjensen wrote
> > > PDF is just another throw back to printing on dead trees in this regard,
> > > where the creator of the file sets the size of the layout when the file
> > > is generated. 
> > >
> > > This has additional implications, such as page counts and the use of
> > > page numbers in a table of contents and index, 
> > That is a little unfair on PDF! PDF is excellent for archiving documents as
> > IF they were printed. It saves on trees and it saves on disk space (compared
> > to digitized images of documents).
> Hi Pedro,
>
> 1st - if we continue this, and I would not mind at all, how about we
> kick it over to the discuss list?
>
> But for the moment.
>
> So we are in agreement - PDF does a great job of replicating the printed
> page.
>
> > The fixed page size and numbering is extremely important when you are
> > referring to some portion of a document. It doesn't make sense to say, "in
> > the third paragraph of page 20" and then because the text was re-flowed to
> > fit in a 3" screen that paragraph is in page 100...
> Well, stop thinking that way (hey didn't I adomish against such
> statement in a recent email...ah humans we are all schytzoid)...
>
> Instead of saying "see the scratch mark on tablet 4", use a hyperlink.
> It will be just as valid when the pages flow differently on different
> devices.
>
>
> > Another big advantage of PDF (when loaded in a PC, Win or Linux, and
> > probably on a Mac) is that you can embed the fonts so you know your page
> > will look *exactly* like you designed it. Apparently this does not work in a
> > Kindle, so it is expected that they will look different because fonts are
> > being replaced (as in an epub)
> Yup - embedded fonts = hard coding. 
>
> I'm not saying there is no place for PDF and it's like just that there
> are other ways to view the world, the new world.
>
> // drew
>
> > Just my 2 cents ;)
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context: 
> > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Write2epub-tp3732714p3735140.html
> > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Hi, Group.

I read the whole thread, and came back to this note as a jump-in point.

My opinion is epub is fine for portable devices, and that PDF does it's
best to duplicate the printed page. 

My pet peeve (to consider) is that most PDF ebooks that I have used (and
couldn't use) were either jpg pages (I had to tweak cups-PDF myself) or
just not built to be "Searchable".  When I open an e-book for a
programming book or a reference book (no matter the format), I'm not
looking to read it from cover to cover.  I'm looking to find an answer
to a problem.  I know the keywords that I'm looking for, and I want to
search. I don't want to roll through a TOC, I don't want to flip back to
an index... I want to !search!.

Before my Ubuntu box crashed, I had found a procedure using two Linux
tools (one was called "cuniform" I believe).  One tool would OCR the
scanned graphic pages (for some reason it worked only with 150cpi/dpi
scans) and create an XML list of words, and where they were on the page
and on what page.  The next step was h2-something which would merge the
PDF and the XML list and create a "searchable" PDF.

Please, continue with the war and peace treaties.  I have included my
one cent (used to be two cents, until the taxes went up... again).

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