On 01/25/2012 07:42 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
There are a lot of issues that MS has to deal with that make it "easier"
to use and install "certain" software packages. Linux may have new and
different ways of doing things that what people have done for years with
MS desktops, but it does not mean that one is better than the other.
Each has its good points and its bad points. Now with MS going the way
with its desktop interface with Win 8, like Ubuntu did going from GNOME
2.x to Unity, there will be much to deal with then. For now, most
people prefer Windows over Linux for its ease of use. Win 8 will change
that opinion for many users.
On 2012-01-24 1:46 PM, Tom Davies <email@example.com> wrote:
Ahhh, it would be great if Windows had an official package manager
that could look after all the apps, not just the MS ones and could make
sure everything on the system got updated instead of just patches for
Window's own security flaws. Something that could help people pick and
choose the packages that got installed for a program so that you could
tell it what to install and then walk away with no need to hand-hold it
answering questions all the way through and with each program having
it's own different 'style'. Hmm, but then it would look a lot less like
Windows and might even be a little safer which would be a nightmare for
all those antivirus companies.
It would also be nice if Linux would migrate to a universal one size
fits all package manager that did everything on your wish list for a
windows package manager.
Tom, please keep your stupid anti-microsoft rants to yourself.
So yes, the installer for MS Windows would be much better if it was
broken down to installer file and language/help pack files, like Linux
is currently doing.
NO, Windows is not better than Linux and Linux is not better than
Windows, as it currently stands. We all have our own opinions which is
the better one, but it does not need to be discusses on this list.
The real issue is the way LO treats the different platforms with one not
needing language packs while the other one does. That should not be.
It should be the same with all the platforms, download the installer
file and download the language and help packs that are needed beyond the
basic English ones in the install file. If you do it for Linux and Mac,
you should do the same for Windows. It is only fair, is it not?
Also, with the reworking of parts of LO so it would work properly with
Unity, the developers will/may need to do the same with Win 8's tablet
style of interface on their Win 8 desktops and laptops. Some articles
are stating that people may move over to Linux [with not Unity style of
desktop environment] once Win 8 comes out. So we will need to help
these Windows users with their needs, and not rant and rave about how
bad Windows is/was. We need to help them move over to LO from MSO and
help anyone who moved from Windows to Linux with their issues and needs
with dealing with LO in the Linux desktop environments.
I use Ubuntu for my desktop since early 2010. I still use Windows for
some systems though. I like the way Linux has everything you may need
for software packages without needing to pay all that blood-money for
doing your needed work. They should charge for their work, but not
prices that seen to be made to suck as much blood-money as possible from
its users. Now Linux has issues with drivers for the most up-to-date
devices, since volunteers have to buy the devices and write the drivers
for them, instead of the device developers writing one for Linux.
Although there are other issues that make Linux not the best for many
users, it is still a vital platform of many. Each has its good and bad
issues. Neither it a "perfect" platform. So let us stop the "my
platform is better than yours" issues here. It is hard enough for LO
users to get the Windows people to use a free package like LO over
paying for MSO on their Windows systems. There is where we need to
target Windows users, not their use of Windows over Linux platforms. We
need to get users to switch to LO, not try to convince them to switch to
Linux. This is the real need. This is what we need to keep our
energies focused on. LO is free and is just as good, or better, than
MSO. We need to prove it to its users.
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