Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: some text not printing

An idea based on my experience with this type of long-lived document. Look  
for a corruption in the file format.  Look for an older version of it  
(from your archive / backup systems) that might print correctly.

True, this idea comes from experience with M$ products. But the formats  
are not so much different. A long document that receives hundreds of small  
changes over a period of 1 or 2 years is likely to acquire a format  
corruption. One such sign is a difference between the file size as  
reported by LibreOffice and the file size as reported by disk file manager  
in OS.

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David S. Crampton

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:40:41 -0800, George E Noon <ge.noon@verizon.net>  
wrote:

> Spencer,
>      The document in question is a set of the By-Laws of an Odd Fellow  
> Lodge that I happen to have been Secretary of for 19 years, now. I've  
> had it since January, 2002, when as Lodge Secretary, I was named Clerk  
> of the Committee tasked with 'revising & updating the Lodge's By-Laws.
>      I originally had it as a WordPerfect document (& I had a Star  
> Office document version when I came upon and tried that for a while) - I  
> changed over to Ubuntu Linux (Breezy) in 2006 & proceeded to migrate all  
> my document folder contents to it & they've been in Ubuntu program files  
> ever since.
>      Odd, but i was not that fond of Star Office - but when i got to  
> using Ubuntu, i took right to OOo, which came out of Star Office, as I  
> understand it. Switched to Libre Office a bout a year ago 7 this is  
> really the first problem I've had with it.
>
>      The parts that don't print are all full paragraphs --- but I can  
> not find any reason for their not printing in either printer settings  
> nor in any LO settings that I have been able to find.
>      No, i haven't rebooted -- if I were still running MS Windows, that  
> would have been my first choice - but so far that has never been a  
> necessity with Linux, thankfully. I will give it a try - though, if only  
> to eliminate it as something needed.
>      I have most of my documents in standard open document format  
> [whatever LO defaults to, at the time] - I do make MS Word compatible  '  
> .doc' copies, though - so if I need to e-mail to others i don't get a  
> whiney reply back that your document was unreadable.
>      I guess it would also be a good idea to convert to PDF, as well --  
> that might be a solution, or, at least a problem revealer.
>      Thank you for your suggestions & I'll be trying them out & perhaps  
> I'll be inspired to search further to see if I've 'gained' some strange  
> setting somewhere or other...
> George
>
>
> On 01/23/2012 01:48 PM, Spencer Graves wrote:
> >       What part doesn't print?  If it's always at the end, check the  
> > print setting to make sure it's set to print all pages.
> >
> >
> >       If that does not seem to be the problem, have you rebooted?  I  
> > would not expect this to change much, but it might.
> >
> >
> >       Did you try exporting it in various formats, then reimporting  
> > it?  If you've had it for several years, it's probably more likely in  
> > *.doc than any other format.  Have you tried exporting it as RTF and  
> > OpenOffice format plus text?
> >
> >
> >       Do you still get the problem exporting it as text, reimporting  
> > then printing it?  If you still get the problem, you must have some  
> > funny control characters that get exported with the text.  There are  
> > tools to scan for characters that are NOT vanilla ascii, but I'm not  
> > familiar with them.  Once you can get the text to print as you want,  
> > you need to restore formatting and anything else in the original file.   
> > I'd delete all the text that does not print plus a bit more, verify  
> > that everything retained prints, then add back the text deleted from  
> > the *.txt version.  If that does not work, then I'd work from the *.txt  
> > version and add all the formatting, etc., a part at a time, saving  
> > intermediate files until you get what you want.
> >
> >
> >       "Binary search" techniques could speed this work, potentially:   
> > If you have one version that has the problem and another version that  
> > doesn't, then identify the differences and systematically try a version  
> > roughly half way between one that works and one that doesn't until you  
> > fix the problem.
> >
> >
> >       Hope this helps.
> >       Spencer
> >
> >
> > On 1/23/2012 10:25 AM, George E Noon wrote:
> > > Harold,
> > >     Thanks for your reply.
> > >     When I copied & pasted the page in question, the result was  
> > > unchanged; all was visible on-screen, but the 2 last paragraphs did  
> > > not print. In those 2 paragraphs, I am unable to find any setting  
> > > which would account for their 'going invisible'...
> > >     As to the Help "changes">"review function" -- that does not seem  
> > > to have any join to what my problem is, in fact it only refers to  
> > > spreadsheets.
> > >     I see that you are in London -- not that that, or where my dad's  
> > > family comes from has a thing to do with anything, but I'll toss it in  
> > > anyway; my dad's father was from the village of Arnold in  
> > > Nottinghamshire UK & came to the USA on the Lucitania (sister ship to  
> > > the ill-fated Lusitania), on its last voyage across the Atlantic  
> > > before WWI. I had an Uncle Harry Noone, from Notts, who was a Crown  
> > > Chauffeur [I may have the term wrong, but he drove for the  
> > > Government], had been Master of two different Masonic Lodges there,  
> > > and spent his final days as a resident of the Masonic Home in York
> > >     Any way, thanks for your attempts to help - small world &  
> > > seemingly smaller, daily & if we are not helping one another, thing  
> > > would really look bleak.
> > > George
> > >
> > >
> > > On 01/23/2012 04:51 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
> > > > "George E Noon" <ge.noon@verizon.net> wrote in message  
> > > > news:4F1D0CA7.90304@verizon.net...
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >         Seems I've found a new & especially annoying problem.
> > > > >         A document I've had on disk for several years & have printed  
> > > > > without problems before, has now come to the point where some  
> > > > > paragraphs do not print at all - although they appear on-screen OK &  
> > > > > I can find no formatting or other setting difference between the  
> > > > > text which prints & that which does not, except that one does & the  
> > > > > other does not print.
> > > > >         I really do not wish to have to completely re-enter the  
> > > > > entire document, all over again (& hope that whatever caused the  
> > > > > non-print problem does not occur again, anyway).
> > > > >         Does any one have any thoughts as to a possible cause -- I  
> > > > > will investigate all angles I'm able to do.
> > > > >         Thanks for your assistance.
> > > > > George E Noon
> > > >
> > > > What happens if you copy/paste one of the offending paragraphs into a  
> > > > new and otherwise empty Writer document and then print that? Does  
> > > > that give you any clues?
> > > >
> > > > Are the offending paragraphs the result of tracked changes (Reviews)  
> > > > which have been suppressed/rejected?
> > > > See the Help under "changes">"review function" - at least that's  
> > > > where it is in OpenOffice; I don't have LO on this system.

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