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On 10/19/2011 01:00 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
Come on people, please do a little research before spreading FUD...

This is an OPTION in the BIOS, one that can be TURNED OFF.

Any systems manufacturer that disallowed the ability to turn it off would be committing commercial suicide imnsho...

Who cares about us lowly 1% of the market place? So they piss off 1% by not having that option to disable it. Loosing their share of that 1% of the market is not suicide.

Yes, there is some *potential* for this becoming a problem in the dustant future, but not in the next 5 or 10 years...

On 2011-10-19 12:43 PM, Scott Castaline <skotchman@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/19/2011 12:11 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:
On 19 October 2011 16:59, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions<
webmaster@krackedpress.com> wrote:

Please read the linked article. [below]

If Microsoft gets away with this, then no computer that has a Windows 8
logo on it will not be able to boot from free OSs like Linux. This
will be
part of the BIOS. You might not be able to run free software like
LibreOffice, if it goes to the extreme end.

I should think that is illegal under competition law.

To me, if MS get away with forcing OEMs to make it so their systems
cannot
run Linux, then it is another anti-trust violation for MS. Billy boy is
going back to court about unfair practices from the 90's, so if
people do
not step up now to convince OEMs that we will not buy their products
if they
implement the free OS and software blocker at the BOOT LEVEL, then we
cannot
buy any new computers for Linux.

We can buy new computers, just not those that come with Windows. Might
even
be an advantage since there will be a niche market in supplying hardware
that is not restricted in that way. I might start a new business :-)

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/**open-source/free-software-**
Above link is broken, but the problem is that, how many OEM's will deem
it profitable to manufacture 2 different versions of their systems. That
also eliminates dual booting M$ and OpenSource OSes on the same PC. This
will also impact the MoBos manufacturers as they already make 2 versions
of their product to support Intel and AMD now it'll have to be 4
versions. I don't think that'll happen. It's more likely, if M$ gets
their way, one will have to some how hack the boards which will more
than likely nullify any warranties which will then send OpenSource back
to just hobbyists and such and non acceptance by others.
foundation-urges-oems-to-say-**no-to-mandatory-windows-8-**
uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&**tag=nl.rSINGLE<http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/free-software-foundation-urges-oems-to-say-no-to-mandatory-windows-8-uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&tag=nl.rSINGLE><

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/**open-source/free-software-**
foundation-urges-oems-to-say-**no-to-mandatory-windows-8-**
uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&**tag=nl.rSINGLE<http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/free-software-foundation-urges-oems-to-say-no-to-mandatory-windows-8-uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&tag=nl.rSINGLE>

Free Software Foundation urges OEMs to say no to mandatory Windows 8
UEFI
cage

By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols | October 18, 2011, 1:26pm PDT

Summary: The Free Software Foundation is asking OEMs to give users a
choice
on Microsoft anti-Linux Windows 8's United Extensive Firmware security
"feature."

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