Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] MS plans to force OEMs to add boot feature that blocks use of Linux and free software.

On 10/19/2011 01:00 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> Come on people, please do a little research before spreading FUD...
>
> This is an OPTION in the BIOS, one that can be TURNED OFF.
>
> Any systems manufacturer that disallowed the ability to turn it off 
> would be committing commercial suicide imnsho...
Who cares about us lowly 1% of the market place?  So they piss off 1% by 
not having that option to disable it.  Loosing their share of that 1% of 
the market is not suicide.

> Yes, there is some *potential* for this becoming a problem in the 
> dustant future, but not in the next 5 or 10 years...
>
> On 2011-10-19 12:43 PM, Scott Castaline <skotchman@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 10/19/2011 12:11 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:
> > > On 19 October 2011 16:59, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions<
> > > webmaster@krackedpress.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Please read the linked article. [below]
> > > >
> > > > If Microsoft gets away with this, then no computer that has a 
> > > > Windows 8
> > > > logo on it will not be able to boot from free OSs like Linux. This
> > > > will be
> > > > part of the BIOS. You might not be able to run free software like
> > > > LibreOffice, if it goes to the extreme end.
> > > I should think that is illegal under competition law.
> > >
> > > To me, if MS get away with forcing OEMs to make it so their systems
> > > cannot
> > > > run Linux, then it is another anti-trust violation for MS. Billy 
> > > > boy is
> > > > going back to court about unfair practices from the 90's, so if
> > > > people do
> > > > not step up now to convince OEMs that we will not buy their products
> > > > if they
> > > > implement the free OS and software blocker at the BOOT LEVEL, then we
> > > > cannot
> > > > buy any new computers for Linux.
> > > We can buy new computers, just not those that come with Windows. Might
> > > even
> > > be an advantage since there will be a niche market in supplying 
> > > hardware
> > > that is not restricted in that way. I might start a new business :-)
> > >
> > > http://www.zdnet.com/blog/**open-source/free-software-**
> > Above link is broken, but the problem is that, how many OEM's will deem
> > it profitable to manufacture 2 different versions of their systems. That
> > also eliminates dual booting M$ and OpenSource OSes on the same PC. This
> > will also impact the MoBos manufacturers as they already make 2 versions
> > of their product to support Intel and AMD now it'll have to be 4
> > versions. I don't think that'll happen. It's more likely, if M$ gets
> > their way, one will have to some how hack the boards which will more
> > than likely nullify any warranties which will then send OpenSource back
> > to just hobbyists and such and non acceptance by others.
> > > > foundation-urges-oems-to-say-**no-to-mandatory-windows-8-**
> > > > uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&**tag=nl.rSINGLE<http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/free-software-foundation-urges-oems-to-say-no-to-mandatory-windows-8-uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&tag=nl.rSINGLE>< 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.zdnet.com/blog/**open-source/free-software-**
> > > > foundation-urges-oems-to-say-**no-to-mandatory-windows-8-**
> > > > uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&**tag=nl.rSINGLE<http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/free-software-foundation-urges-oems-to-say-no-to-mandatory-windows-8-uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&tag=nl.rSINGLE> 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Free Software Foundation urges OEMs to say no to mandatory Windows 8
> > > > UEFI
> > > > cage
> > > >
> > > > By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols | October 18, 2011, 1:26pm PDT
> > > >
> > > > Summary: The Free Software Foundation is asking OEMs to give users a
> > > > choice
> > > > on Microsoft anti-Linux Windows 8's United Extensive Firmware security
> > > > "feature."
> > > >
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